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Court Declines Case of Reporters in Leak Case (Plame Case)
New York Times ^ | 4/19/2005 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 04/19/2005 3:12:31 PM PDT by stinkerpot65

Two reporters facing up to 18 months in jail for refusing to testify about their sources lost another round in the courts today. The reporters, Judith Miller of The New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine, now have only one appeal left, to the United States Supreme Court.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alamoudi; cialeak; cooper; globalrelieffund; grf; judithmiller; matthewcooper; miller; newyorktimes; nigerflap; plame; plamenamegame; reporters; thenewyorktimes; valerieplame
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Don't know why the bother. Doesn't look like any crime was even committed.
1 posted on 04/19/2005 3:12:35 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Shermy; cyncooper

FYI....


2 posted on 04/19/2005 3:13:30 PM PDT by Dog
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To: stinkerpot65

Because journalists are NOT above the law.


3 posted on 04/19/2005 3:15:08 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: stinkerpot65

"Don't know why the bother. Doesn't look like any crime was even committed."

You know this?


4 posted on 04/19/2005 3:17:00 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Because journalists are NOT above the law. True, but the whole investigate is political, anyway. Just a waste of taxpayer money instigated by Bush-haters. Now it has backfired on the Times, but it is still a waste of money.
5 posted on 04/19/2005 3:18:01 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: stinkerpot65
Well, I don't care how it started. I think these arrogant journalists should pay for their crimes. I will not rest until they pay.

LOL! But I do mean it.

6 posted on 04/19/2005 3:22:43 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I hope they rot in jail.

There is no such thing as a journalistic privilege.


7 posted on 04/19/2005 3:23:29 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Shermy
You know this?

Read this

Or see this.

8 posted on 04/19/2005 3:24:07 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: MeanWestTexan
There is no such thing as a journalistic privilege.

I disagree. Protected sources are an important way to weed out corruption.

If Matt Drudge gets a picture of Ted Kennedy taking a bribe, his source ought to be protected. Otherwise, he is far less likely to get such a picture.

9 posted on 04/19/2005 3:34:22 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: stinkerpot65

Well, the US Supreme Court disagrees with you.

In no uncertain terms, actually.


10 posted on 04/19/2005 3:36:28 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: stinkerpot65

The leak was the crime. It was not a leak about a crime.


11 posted on 04/19/2005 3:37:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
No, the leak was not a crime.

Writing with First Amendment lawyer Bruce Sanford in the Washington Post recently, former Assistant Deputy Attorney General Victoria Toensing explained that she helped draft the law in question, the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

Says Toensing, "The Novak column and the surrounding facts do not support evidence of criminal conduct."

For Plame's outing to have been illegal, the one-time deputy AG says, "her status as undercover must be classified." Also, Plame "must have been assigned to duty outside the United States currently or in the past five years."

Since in neither case does Plame qualify, Toensing says: "There is a serious legal question as to whether she qualifies as 'covert.'"

The law also requires that the celebrated non-spy's outing take place by someone who knew the government had taken "affirmative measures to conceal [the agent's] relationship" to the U.S., a prospect Toensing says is unlikely.

The rest

The whole thing was a liberal media witchhunt which Bush caved in to.

12 posted on 04/19/2005 3:49:07 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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You've presented what could be a compelling argument in favor of protecting anonymous sources, but that doesn't mean this protection is covered by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

If these journalists want to be protected under the law, they'll have to get the U.S. Congress and 50 state governments to change their laws. Making a Constitutional issue of this is nothing more than a lame attempt by one of the most mediocre professions in the U.S. today to elevate their work to the same level of "legal sanctity" as that of a lawyer or doctor working on behalf of his or her client.

13 posted on 04/19/2005 4:04:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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Don't know why the bother. Doesn't look like any crime was even committed.

they convicted and sent Martha Stewart to jail for the "crime" of "lying" to the FBI about a transaction that they didn't prosecute her for.

If Martha gets convicted for that then these snakes should be put to death.

(that's a joke, son)

14 posted on 04/19/2005 4:05:08 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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"Since in neither case does Plame qualify, Toensing says:"

Mr. T knows this how?


15 posted on 04/19/2005 4:06:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Phsstpok
they convicted and sent Martha Stewart to jail for the "crime" of "lying" to the FBI about a transaction that they didn't prosecute her for.

I agree. Another witchhunt. Although, in this case, Stewart did commit a crime by lying. But the prosecution of a lie over a non-crime was all about her fame.

16 posted on 04/19/2005 4:07:41 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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"Mr. T knows this how?"

Mrs. T is Assistant Deputy Attorney General Victoria Toensing. She wrote the original law.

Did you even read the article?

17 posted on 04/19/2005 4:10:41 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: stinkerpot65

Who was prosecuted over the Pentagon Papers?


18 posted on 04/19/2005 4:14:07 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: stinkerpot65; cyncooper; Dog; Fedora

Read this from the Court today:

http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200504/04-3138b.pdf

If I read it correctly, the jusdge is not without sympathy for the reporters but says they'd lose anyway in these circumstances, comparing it to the "crime/fraud" rule. IE, can't use the "privilege" to shield the crime.


19 posted on 04/19/2005 4:14:37 PM PDT by Shermy
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"Did you even read the article?"

Did you? Where is it shown her knowledge about Plame's circumstances?


20 posted on 04/19/2005 4:16:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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