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LIVE THREAD: Senate Coverage AND Senate Foreign Relations Committee vote on Bolton nomination
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Posted on 04/19/2005 11:07:48 AM PDT by ken5050

OK..here's what we know..Senate is in recess for the weekly party caucus luncheons. Supposed to resume at 2:15. on C-span 2.. The Foreign Relations committee is supposed to meet at 2:45 to vote on the Bolton nomination. Lugar has refused requests for a delay. Just before the Senate recessed, Reid objected to Frist's UC request for the Froeign Relations committee to meet today. Frist withdrew his request..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; backbonetransplant; bolton; quorumcall; un; ussenate; usualsuspects; watchingpaintdry
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To: Bahbah
He had a clear game plan and was sticking to it, but he had not done his homework on all of the committee members, so he got blindsided and was really made to look foolish.

I'll meet you halfway -- If Lugar didn't ask Voinovich if he was OK with going forward, then he deserved to get humiliated. If Voinovich changed his mind during the hearing, then it's all on him. OK??

Either way, we looked BAD today. When you let the likes of Joe Biden and John Kerry and Box-O-Rox successfully pull a Jedi Mind Trick on you -- that's humiliating.

1,361 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:06 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot and FristFan)
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To: Congressman Billybob
In your opinion was the primary cause of the delay (defeat) Hagel or Voinovich?
1,362 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:14 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: embedded_rebel

I think the Senate is a pack of wimpering yet vicious dogs....


1,363 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:19 PM PDT by woofie
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To: hoyaloya

keep working your memory bank. I believe I read she is a Democrat activist...I think her allegations were in Sunday's Washington Post, and in the same article, I remember there being no contemporaneous confirmation of her charges.

No doubt over the next days we will hear more of her, but I suspect the democrats already know this is "he said, she said", that it won't be proven. But that's ok with them...they got what they wanted today, they stuck it to President Bush.


1,364 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:22 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Keep us posted, with a ping, please.com)
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To: Howlin
PD, to "not give up," you have to have something to work with; the spineless GOP isn't doing their share.

We have Bush, Rove and God on our side. I believe that.

1,365 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:22 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Da Mav

here! here!


1,366 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:30 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: SoVaDPJ

yup,...AND , no RNC check , no$$$$$$$no$$$$$$$$$NOMORE$$$$$$$$$$


1,367 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:35 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: ken5050

That question is excellent and made me think. Voinobitch is not conservative and he may have FBI files hanging around loose. He may have done some un-republican things that he does not want out there in public,and the Dems know about it.


1,368 posted on 04/19/2005 2:41:57 PM PDT by samantha (relax the grownups are in charge (I think).....)
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To: Howlin

I just noticed that the Mikulski cloture PASSED and now they are voting on her illegal immigrant amendment---

What do you want to bet is PASSES, WHICH MAKES IT A CLEAN SWEEP FOR THE DEMOCRATS TODAY!!!!!


1,369 posted on 04/19/2005 2:42:16 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: Dad yer funny

Back in high school, we use to joke around "Local hood makes good as area mayor."

Well, take a look at Trent Lott and the likes of him; they are nobodys who win in tiny precincts and then all they do is protect THEIR territory.


1,370 posted on 04/19/2005 2:42:21 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Howlin
He wouldn't have lost at 4 P.M. EST.

Do you have some knowledge of Senator Voinovich's vote at 4 pm vs. 5 pm that the rest of us don't have?

1,371 posted on 04/19/2005 2:42:25 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot and FristFan)
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To: Liberty Valance
heh! Yeah, really. :)

1,372 posted on 04/19/2005 2:42:27 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Soul Seeker
"Voinivich just humiliated Lugar."

I beg to differ, this was EXTREMELY humiliating for all of us! They represent us! By them voicing their vote those bastard did killed any chance of taming the freaking rats! The NUCLEAR OPTION is now a fairy tale, nothing more! Voinivich and those two other jerks, have NO idea what damage they have just inflicted on the party! The pubs for 4 years have tried so hard to get the upper hand over the FILTHY SOB RATS and these three in a matter of a few hours gave the RATS an abundance of power!! That's why I'm seething right now!!
1,373 posted on 04/19/2005 2:43:02 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Dog
WHY????

Because Voinovich is a scumbag who inevitable straddles the fence on each and every freaking issue. Same as he did with Afghanistan and Iraq. Odds are he either did not get something he wanted or he wants something he hasn't gotten yet.

To announce to the world that he hasn't been doing his job by missing committee meetings and becuase of that and this latest crap, he wants to think on it takes a special asshole. Voinovich fits that bill.

I have nothing against Ohioans, Lord knows, but I hope it is a conservative day in Boston, Mass when Voinovich gets anything from the WH or Congress for his constituents.

1,374 posted on 04/19/2005 2:43:23 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Txsleuth

I wish those dims would ROT in......


1,375 posted on 04/19/2005 2:43:34 PM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Even if he wasn't there at 4, if they had voted it would have been 9 to 8 and that would have been voted OUT.

Once he spoke up, it gave cover to Chaffee and Hagel.


1,376 posted on 04/19/2005 2:43:44 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Do you have some knowledge of Senator Voinovich's vote at 4 pm vs. 5 pm that the rest of us don't have?


Just that Voinoprick wasn't there yet.


1,377 posted on 04/19/2005 2:44:34 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: PISANO

Its just a loss on a single ball game, not the end of the world. Probably good for this to occur now with this who-cares nominee so Bush can work out some things before we get a SC nominee up there. If I were Bush I'd call all of the Repubs on that committee over for lunch and chat about it.


1,378 posted on 04/19/2005 2:44:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Pukin Dog

Read what I said up the thread about Bush being a lame duck: these POTUS wannabes don't give on rat's butt about what Bush wants now.


1,379 posted on 04/19/2005 2:44:45 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: RoseofTexas; Pukin Dog; Howlin
They represent us! By them voicing their vote those bastard did killed any chance of taming the freaking rats! The NUCLEAR OPTION is now a fairy tale, nothing more!

Rose is right.....the Nuclear Option is DOA ...after today.

1,380 posted on 04/19/2005 2:44:54 PM PDT by Dog
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