Posted on 04/19/2005 10:42:12 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
Or a NAMBLA t-shirt!
Af, I refer you to "The Don"'s reponses to me (if they have been removed, SJackson has the first one). They run the gamut from jew-bashing, to ariamne bashing, and then posts to you innocently asking if there are really anti-semites on FR.
Amazing.
I totally sympathize with the Rabbi, but in the end he has made Jews look bad and he has made a "hero" out of this jerk to his sycophants.
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I have one problem with your post--I don't think the Rabbi should be expected to represent all Jews, anymore than Michael Jackson represents all Blacks, or Jim Bakker represented all Evangelicals, et all; what you do think?
Interesting, I don't see what they would find of interest on FR. Most posters here are very pro-Israel.
No, I don't. Leaving out the irrelevance to the thread or the Holocaust, as I recall it, it didn't refer to the Jews as amongst those who have abortions or kill people in pvs, rather only to Jews. But that's from memory.
As I recall, you quoted it in one of your responses. You as the poster and the recipient can see that on your "Pings" page, even though the rest of us can't. Let me know if I'm right.
I call them like I see them. And it's not a label I throw around without reason, and in your case, I mentioned the reasons at length.
You're the one who started the jew-bashing.
Another lie, you just can't help yourself can you?
Thank you my friend. Most FReepers welcome ex-libs, we are walking proof that conservatism is a tonic that overpowers the strongest of liberal kool-aid. The Don is obviously an old hold out of the belief that Jews are responsible for the world's evils. He should go join a mosque, he would be quite at home.
Not really. Read post 185. Ariamne has gone off half cocked.
Geez Ariamne, you really are something else!
LOL! I don't think there are any pro-Nazis on FR! Although the Left, no doubt, thinks everyone on FR are Nazis. With President Bush as our Fuerher (sorry about the spelling!).
Nice slander.
"Nazi's have done a lot to hurt Jews over the centuries"
Uhm, hate to tell you, but the Nazi movement is a post-WW1 ideology whose roots are founded in Marxism which, itself, is little more that 150 years old.
When the Nazis started their tirades against the Jews it was very fashionable all over the Western world to spew hatred on the Jews. Charles Lindbergh was an American Nazi and was unrepentant of it to his death. FDR is on record with nasty remarks about Jews and the only reason Henry Morgenthau couldn't kill Jews personally was because he couldn't find a way to get away with it.
Let's not put on the rose-colored glasses, here. Every non-Jewish person of Western descent has SOMEONE in their ancestry who did SOMETHING to a Jew in the past.
I often think that the reason Naziism and the Holocaust so struck a chord with Americans is that we knew how close we were coming to doing the same thing ourselves. The evil of the Nazis was in some ways a mirror in which we saw our own evil reflected back at us.
The WW2 generation cast off their hatred of the Jews in reaction to what they saw in Germany. And they realized that their own little comments over the years about the "dirty Jew" down the street, the "Jew bankers", and all of the other 'harmless' epithets they routinely uttered contributed to the climate that made possible Kristal Nacht and the Holocaust that followed.
I know I am not the only person who winced when he read that the Rabbi provoked and started a fight. I'm no fan of the jerk he hit, but that does not excuse a RABBI for losing his cool. I'd EXPECT a young hothead from the ADL or JDL to do this kind of thing, but a Rabbi?
The assault on the Nazi was wrong but the fact that a Rabbi did it makes it wrong on an entirely different level.
And I can only imagine the whispers going on in various places where both sides are starting to assess that something unmeasurable was lost when the Rabbi started this fight. A line was crossed.
I've never, ever disputed the right of Jews to fight back.
But this is different and I must say that I don't like the idea of holy men throwing down like common thugs. I don't like contemplating a situation where a Nazi's behavior could possibly be interpreted as more peaceful, more orderly, and somehow *better* than the behavior of a holy man.
Posted by SJackson to TheDon; ariamne; admin
On News/Activism 04/19/2005 3:02:11 PM EDT · 168 of 228
"Really? I'm sure they are aborting their own children and killing off their relatives who are in a PVS. So much for Never Again!"
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The comment was pulled in my response as well; the only place it's left is in your post; which I pulled from my ping list.
Don? Those are your words. You can't run from them now. Calling me a liar won't change reality. You have no grounds to call me a liberal or a liar, since I have posted no liberal sentiments, and there's your post to me in black and white. But continue to make a fool out of yourself, I don't mind, really.
4 power scope + .22 target rounds= No sound, no fuss, no fingerprints.
Thank you.
Here is post 185 where I explain my comment.
FYI, here is ariamne's original comment:
"Of course there is no law against being an jackass by wearing a swastika. But if you do, be prepared to get jacked; we aren't going to quietly line up for the showers anymore."
My comment was in response to her suggestion that Jews won't tolerate such treatment. I, personally, should hope they wouldn't. But I'm a bit skeptical. Then, I made the point that Jews, and, of course, everyone else engages in the Abortion Holocaust.
I'm not sure how you got anti-semite from my original comment, but hopefully this will help clear up the confusion.
As someone recently said "I call them like I see them".
Touche!
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