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What Liberals Want
The Weekly Standard ^ | 19.04.2005 12:00:00 AM | John Hinderaker

Posted on 04/19/2005 5:18:27 AM PDT by Leifur

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We here in my country are going over some changes in the Constitution, and all kinds of groups want to put "rights" to this and that, and we the right winged are fighting it, and hopefully we will vin it. But it is so strange, that the US, wich I and many of my right winged Icelandic compatriots beliewed to be the libertarian dream world is so socialistic, at least that such ideas can get that much prominence in it.
1 posted on 04/19/2005 5:18:27 AM PDT by Leifur
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To: Leifur

We're still on the winning side of the war for liberty. It is a long hard fight but we haven't given up. Don't let our liberal media mislead you!

Good luck!


2 posted on 04/19/2005 5:21:08 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ask about free shipping !)
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"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Independence
July 4, 1776

Each day, the above words have more and more meaning (do to Judicial activism).
3 posted on 04/19/2005 5:36:55 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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This liberal "utopia" already exists, The Nordic countries(Sweeden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland) are already there. I also believe that there was an article posted here a few days ago that stated that the quality of economic development had severely dropped latley. We have got to get people off the government teat and the government off the peoples teat.
4 posted on 04/19/2005 5:41:48 AM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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But it is so strange, that the US...is so socialistic.

I like to believe that is isn't the USA but is the liberal-Marks-Stalin-Leninists elitists that live here because of our freedoms. They seek to enslave us.

It is the everlasting battle of Capitalism against Socialism, Freedom against Slavery.

5 posted on 04/19/2005 5:47:41 AM PDT by jrushing (Democrats=National Socialist Workers Party)
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To: Leifur

This is what liberals do when they have no power: engage in intellectual masturbation. Let them go on with their wishful thinking, it distracts them from actually doing anything of substance.


6 posted on 04/19/2005 6:01:13 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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It is time for progressives to set a constitutional agenda for the 21st Century.

If there was ever any doubt that Liberalism is a mental disease this post should end that doubt.

The American Constitution, while not perfect, is the most perfect political document devised by man, and yet Liberals insist on replacing it with a Socialist agenda that would destroy the very concept of government by the people.

The fact that we have a Judiciary who looks kindly upon this kind of Socialist babble, and talks of incorporating it into our laws, is scary but understandable. It is a consequence of being among the power elite.

What Socialist dogma cannot tolerate is the light of day. This kind of conference at Yale Law School should be disseminated to the general public, so they can see for themselves what those in the legal industry are preparing to do.

This proposed attack upon the Constitution should be a talking point for those questioning House members when election time rolls around. Where our elected officials stand on issues pertaining to the Judiciary, and the Constitution, should be more important than how much pork he's feeding his district.

7 posted on 04/19/2005 6:05:03 AM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: jrushing

Well stated.


9 posted on 04/19/2005 6:08:20 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Leifur

The left will never understand that their "rights" aren't rights, but privileges, and privileges are "granted" through your own hard work and self-sufficiency. Oh, never mind. It's the hard work and self-sufficiency they so want to avoid.

For the side that's supposed to be so intellectual, the left has all the deductive reasoning powers of a stump, though I might be dissing all the stumps out there.


10 posted on 04/19/2005 6:27:54 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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It is time for progressives to set a constitutional agenda for the 21st Century.

These bums are still liars and cowards. They are not "progressives," they are communists. Their refusal to even truthfully identify themselves shows the bankruptcy of their ideas and the cowardice of their assertions.

11 posted on 04/19/2005 6:28:10 AM PDT by pabianice
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So in other words...Liberals want the US to become a third world nation.


12 posted on 04/19/2005 6:33:25 AM PDT by jetson (throne)
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To: organdonor

Are you kidding? Twice in the first paragraph, once in the fourth, once in the fifth, once in the third-to-last, and once in the last. Also, there are numerous instances of "progressive", which is fuzzy-media speak for "socialist", "left-wing", or "liberal".


13 posted on 04/19/2005 6:51:40 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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The essence of the progressive constitutional project is to recognize "positive" rights, not just "negative" rights, so that citizens are not only guaranteed freedom from specified forms of government interference, but also are guaranteed the receipt of specified economic benefits. The bottom line is that Congress would no longer have the discretion to decline to enact liberal policies. The triumph of the left would be constitutionally mandated. The following excerpts from the discussion, as recorded by our correspondent, illustrate its tone and content:

The essence of our Bill of Rights is that none of the rights that are enshrined in that wonderful paper requires (compels) work/effort on the part of others.

I have the right to Freedom of Speech, but no one is compelled to pay me for what I say, no one is compelled to listen to me, etc.

But if the liberals come up with a new right - a right to housing ... then someone has to pay for it. And does that right mean the right to a single room condo, or a 3 bedroom home, or an elaborate mansion, all paid for by taxing others.

Our rights are God-given .... but not to be extracted from others by assuming that they can be enslaved so that their work makes others comfortable.

It is time for revolution when liberals decide that they want to saddle the remainder of humanit so that the can ride us!

Mike

14 posted on 04/19/2005 6:51:45 AM PDT by Vineyard
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In the first quote from Ackerman:

"Task of every generation is to create institutional structures which express fundamental liberal commitments"

16 posted on 04/19/2005 7:19:11 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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Cass Sunstein, for those who don't remember, is the law professor at the University of Chicago who several years ago wrote Republic.com, a book which recommended that all websites be required to provide links to other websites which contain opposing points of view. For example, Free Republic, under his scheme, would be required by law to link to Michael Moore. And yes, the title of the book was selected to convey his deep uneasyness with and desire to control this very website.

He is a limp wristed liberal regulator and nanny-stater par excellence, but, it seems to me, despite the fact that he's a relatively young man, something of a political dinosaur. Let's hope I'm right, anyway.

18 posted on 04/19/2005 7:30:23 AM PDT by beckett
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By your definition, maybe it would be a good idea, but Ackerman then goes on to define what he means by "liberal", and it is the same worn-out socialist crap we see so often.


19 posted on 04/19/2005 7:31:47 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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> This is what liberals do when they have no power...

You are correct, sir. What liberals *really* want is power; they yearn for it, they yearn to exercise it, to wallow in it, they yearn to keep it and never lose it again. Thus the liberals' plan for a 2020 Constitution, which you so aptly call mental masturbation. It is how they intend to enshrine themselves by making the people forever dependent on the government for these so-called "freedoms." If people have no need for the government, they will have no need for liberals...which is why they are so adamantly opposed to privatizing Social Security, their crown jewel.


20 posted on 04/19/2005 8:37:07 AM PDT by cloud8
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