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INVASION USA Border Patrol union supports Minutemen
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 18, 2005 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 04/18/2005 3:25:12 PM PDT by Jacob Kell

The largest local union of Border Patrol agents in the country has declared its support for the Minuteman Project in Arizona, while at the same time slamming both the American Civil Liberties Union and President Bush.

According to its website, the U.S. Border Patrol Local 2544, which covers the Tucson sector of the agency, the volunteers involved in the border-monitoring Minuteman Project have been nothing but supportive.

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What do you think of Bush's attempts to give amnesty to illegals? I think it's not a very good idea, truth be told.
1 posted on 04/18/2005 3:25:16 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

I can't believe I am in agreement with a public employees union.


2 posted on 04/18/2005 3:27:15 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Jacob Kell

He isn't up for reelection again but other republicans are. They are the ones who need to be pressured the most.


3 posted on 04/18/2005 3:27:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: cripplecreek

I know that Chuck Hagel has supported an amnesty bill but I don't recall hearing that Bush is supporting one.


4 posted on 04/18/2005 3:29:00 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies ....)
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To: Jacob Kell
Just got the email from WND.

This is certainly a plus for the Minuteman Project(and one they deserve).

Unfortunately,as strongly as I support President Bush, he has completely lost me on immigration.

5 posted on 04/18/2005 3:30:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: bpjam

The presidents feelings are clear enough when he calls people who are acting on their constitutional rights "vigilantes".


6 posted on 04/18/2005 3:31:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: CzarNicky
Halleleujah, that takes one more thing away from the rats and the old media. The aclu has been desperate to get something on the Minutemen. They even stooped to shining flashlights in their faces(Accd. to Sean Hannity this afternoon) at night and having journalists undercover bait them and every dirty trick they can think of. Nothing has worked. These guys(the minutemen) are the real thing and they will expand operations (FNC a few minutes ago). We here at fr and conservatives elsewhere are winning this battle. So far.
7 posted on 04/18/2005 3:35:06 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: Jacob Kell
His idea is a disaster in the making.

Giving those that are here amnesty won't do anything to prevent others from coming here.

His guest worker program is also disastrous. It doesn't do a thing to prevent any illegals from crossing the borders and what's worse, the "guest legal workers" will turn into illegals once their work permit expires.

sw

8 posted on 04/18/2005 3:39:49 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: bpjam
Bush made a major speech in January outlining his wish to amnesty millions of illegal aliens, only he dishonestly characterized his sell-out proposal as a "temporary" worker program. In the same appalling speech, he also voiced support for an open global labor market for American jobs.
9 posted on 04/18/2005 3:39:51 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Jacob Kell
It's pure arrogance on Bush's part and very disturbing for the future of his presidency.

He better get busy being our leader as opposed to being Vicente Fox's "good buddy".

Bush ain't paying attention, maybe ignoring the hand writing on the wall would be a better description of his disinterest in a bad situation getting worse!

10 posted on 04/18/2005 3:40:04 PM PDT by VOYAGER
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To: CzarNicky

-I can't believe I am in agreement with a public employees union.-

I, too, am struggling to come to grips with it.


11 posted on 04/18/2005 3:40:45 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Jacob Kell
"We want to make it clear – because we've had a lot of questions about this – we have not had one single complaint from a rank-and-file agent in this sector about the Minutemen," says a statement on the site. "Every report we've received indicates these people are very supportive of the rank-and-file agents; they're courteous. Many of them are retired firefighters, cops, and other professionals, and they're not causing us any problems whatsoever."

The group blames the ACLU for setting off ground sensors in the area of the Minutemen activities:

"Reports of [Minutemen] causing 'ground sensors' to go off are exaggerated because most of those are being set off by the ACLU sneaking around trying to find the Minutemen doing something wrong."

As WorldNetDaily reported, the ACLU has sent representatives to the 23-mile Arizona border area to monitor the Minutemen and report any civil-liberties abuses to authorities. Instead, said Minuteman Project spokesman Grey Deacon, the law group's people are flashing lights, sounding horns and warning off illegals and their "coyote" human smugglers from entering territory patrolled by the volunteers. Deacon claims such activity amounts to aiding and abetting illegal aliens.

The Minuteman Project has attracted hundreds of volunteers, many legally carrying guns and waving flags, from across the country. They plan to keep watch around the clock until the end of the month, intimidating illegal aliens with their presence and alerting the Border Patrol via cell phones or radios when they see people crossing.

The Border Patrol local emphasizes the Minuteman Project is "shifting the bulk of the illegal-alien traffic out of the Naco corridor."

The statement then takes the president to task for his immigration proposal.

"If only President Bush were so supportive of the rank-and-file agents," the site states. "While President Bush hangs out thousands of miles away in the White House, these people are willing to give up their time and energy to actually do something. While President Bush entices millions of illegal aliens to keep coming with his amnesty proposals and his demoralizing statements that he doesn't want Border Patrol agents chasing 'good-hearted people just coming here to take jobs Americans won't do,' the Minutemen are trying to get our laws enforced.

"The Minutemen have made it very clear that they fully support rank-and-file Border Patrol agents. If only we had such support from the politicians we have to work for (aren't we really supposed to be working for the citizens of this country anyway?)"

12 posted on 04/18/2005 3:40:51 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: Jacob Kell
One Million Illegal Aliens Freed
13 posted on 04/18/2005 3:45:49 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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What do you think of Bush's attempts to give amnesty to illegals? I think it's not a very good idea, truth be told.

Agreed. We tried it in 1986 and it didn't work. All we got was another wave of exploitable workers who can't demand equal rights and equal pay with their legal counterparts.

I don't think we can deport 12 million people but amnesty would be a mistake until the executive branch can demonstrate its ability to use existing immigration laws to to close our borders and prevent the exploitation of Latin American workers who have no better choice than to try to break our laws.

14 posted on 04/18/2005 3:46:29 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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To: Jacob Kell

It’s politics as usual. Latinos have become the majority minority – and both parties are courting their vote.


15 posted on 04/18/2005 3:48:27 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: smoothsailing
The fact that the MSM has virtually stopped reporting on the Minutemen Project is a sign that it is going quite well.

As for the ACLU and other groups "monitoring" the project, let 'em come, let 'em watch. The Minutemen aren't doing anything wrong and from across the border it can be tough to tell one gringo from another. They just make the Minutemen look stronger and deter more illegals from crossing - (Thanks ACLU :0).
16 posted on 04/18/2005 3:53:26 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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To: smoothsailing

I hope people will stop talking about sensors set up at the border. Those are sensitive information that can alert migrants. I wish the DHS did not make the implementation of sensors public, if it was not leaked.


17 posted on 04/18/2005 3:53:53 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

If we enforce the current law and fine employers, deportation will occur all by itself.


18 posted on 04/18/2005 6:55:01 PM PDT by amihow
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

If we enforce the current law and fine employers, deportation will occur all by itself.


19 posted on 04/18/2005 6:55:08 PM PDT by amihow
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To: CzarNicky
This, from their website...

ATTENTION AGENTS:

Looking for another Federal job? Click here. Looking for another local, state, or federal police job? Click here. Be one of the hundreds of demoralized agents trying to get out of here. We have finally given up trying to keep anybody in the BP. We have received dozens of calls and other contacts over the last several weeks from Tucson Sector agents who are giving up on the BP. They tell us a lot of their friends have given up as well.

Our current "management team" in DC has this outfit headed in the wrong direction. The votes are in and our agents are fed up with the way they are being treated. The rich get richer (have you seen the fully paid moves and other bennies being collected by our upper managers while the grunts are told to pound sand?), the poor get poorer (look at the patrol vehicle you're driving, then look at the Ford Excursions some of your PAICs are driving.......can you say "needless custom wheels and tires, $1,000s in needless custom accessories, etc". Where the hell does that money come from when we're told there isn't even money to get our worn out vehicles washed half the time?).

Our President doesn't back us up (according to him we shouldn't even be arresting illegal aliens unless they're known "terrorists" or career criminals), our family lives are getting ready to take a worse beating with the ouster of the bid for shift, overtime caps, pay cuts, and the advent of the new "indefinite" details to fight "TERRORISM", our wages and rights are being cut, and our borders remain an absolute sieve (so much for any real fight against TERRORISM - it's time the politicians admit that "border security" is an absolute SHAM)!

According to their site, the Border Patrol is treated like the scum of the earth...Be interesting if they all quit...

20 posted on 04/18/2005 7:47:12 PM PDT by Iscool
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