[Uncle Hal]

When ever you read these article in the the MSM about poor education, population shifts, quality of life etc., the 800 pound guerrilla sitting in the middle of the room that nobody talks about is ILLEGAl IMMIGRATION. They just cannot bring themselves to blame this problem for much of our ills when it is as obvious as the nose on your face. Everybody's hands are dirty on this subject. Bush too for not doing anything about it. There is a good chance this is going to come back and bite bite him in the ass. Big time.

[Gaffer]

Actually, the 800 lb Gorilla is not the illegal immigration. Illegal immigration laxity is only the symptom. The Gorilla is the collection of "snot-nosed, booger-eatin', butt-lickin', bed-wettin', crybaby" liberals who form the major constituency in LA County. All you have to do is to look at the Red Blue County map to see that! When their internal resources ran dry, they tried to get the FED to pay up, but with 8 years of GW there's not much chance of that, so they're leaving. What result is that their ilk will pollute the political stream both up and down river. Let's just hope it's diluted enough to not matter much. Liberals only have power when they congregate en masse.

[Southack]

"the 800 pound guerrilla sitting in the middle of the room that nobody talks about is ILLEGAl IMMIGRATION"

You've got to be kidding. For many posters on FR, that's the *only* thing being talked about.