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To: watsonfellow
it seems to me that this young man took a risk by taking part in the protests

That's the most un-American thing I've heard in awhile.

and was arrested and charged in good faith by the police and prosecutors.

Oh really? There was a thread posted here the other day about how 90% of these cases were being dropped by the state because of cops lying and fabricating evidence. The only reason this was discoved was because many private citizens were recording events with their own video cameras, and later turned them in to the DA. In one case, the cops had their own tape, but cut out all the exculpatory evidence. They blamed this on an "editing error".

I suspect that next time around, they'll simply ban video recorders as a "security" measure. And the statist contigent here will applaud that also.

I feel no sympathy at all for him or his family.

Anyone who dares to disagree with you obviously deserves to be falsely arrested, right?

Amerika? With a k.

Yep. Welcome to the police state.

9 posted on 04/14/2005 11:16:29 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mulder
it seems to me that this young man took a risk by taking part in the protests

That's the most un-American thing I've heard in awhile.

Protests are American. Civil disobedience, on the other hand, is not. There is nothing in the Constitution about the "right" to disturb. As I recall, it is the right of the people to "peaceably assemble" not to cause destruction or impede the progress of military vehicles, as has happened elsewhere. Martin Luther King, and civil rights activists knew that and were willing to be arrested for their beliefs. Obviously, the "protestors" of today have lost that fact, and it is BECAUSE of the lack of prosecution that they continue to disrupt otherwise peaceable situations.

Anyone who dares to disagree with you obviously deserves to be falsely arrested, right?

No, but anyone willing to disrupt the rest of our lives to try and prove their political point deserves to be arrested. This young man might not have actually done what the authorities claim, but, on the other hand....didn't he travel an awfully long way to disrupt an otherwise peaceful event? Liek I previously stated....you have the right to peaceably assemble, not to stop a city like has been done in San Francisco, and in this case New York City.

Oh really? There was a thread posted here the other day about how 90% of these cases were being dropped by the state because of cops lying and fabricating evidence.

I would also venture to guess that most of these cases are being dropped because of the political leanings of the individual District Attorneys. Bad for business to offend your major demographics.

40 posted on 04/14/2005 11:46:21 PM PDT by WBurgVACon (Proud member Tau Kappa Epsilon - along with Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mulder

Is your position that no one lit the object on fire? Maybe it was spontaneous combustion?

It appears to me a simple case of the cops grabbing the wrong hoodlum. Or more probably the right one - he just didn't happen to be the perp this time -

What do you think he was doing travelling from AZ to NYC to "protest" a convention? Protest a convention? Why would someone even want to protest a convention?

These kids went there to be disruptive. Plain and simple. He went to sow chaos and got some in return.

The only sad thing here is they got the wrong guy -

Please note Mr Amerika - he was not beaten and was cleared.

Diva's Husband


41 posted on 04/14/2005 11:47:16 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Mulder; watsonfellow
There was a thread posted here the other day about how 90% of these cases were being dropped by the state because of cops lying and fabricating evidence.

You have been watching too much Democracy Now. Worse, you are believing the crap they are putting out.

The facts:
19% of the cases are being prosecuted.
27% of the cases dropped for lack of evidence.
64% of the cases were plead "Adjudication Withheld" pending six months good behavior. (You admit you are guilty but the governement is not going to prosecute if you are a good boy for six months. You still have a criminal record.)

Civil disobediance lovers want to put the 64% + 27% together to get the fiction of 91%.

84 posted on 04/15/2005 1:04:31 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: Mulder
Error # 2

... after making dumb comments on a "news" article, that may, or may not have truthful parts to it, you get in the face of a poster who comments on your inane comments. ;)

111 posted on 04/15/2005 2:48:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (If you are broken ... it is because you are brittle.)
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To: Mulder
Yep. Welcome to the police state.

In a true police state, you would now be in prison for saying that. However, fortunately for you, being an ignorant ass is not a crime in this country. Heck, you could even make president. There's even a political party that uses the ass as its formal symbol (how appropriate is that?). I would suggest you look them up, but you're probably already a member.

136 posted on 04/15/2005 5:53:51 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: Mulder
That's the most un-American thing I've heard in awhile.

The OP should have said violent protest...

148 posted on 04/15/2005 5:18:49 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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