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To: Dean Baker

Dean,

Don't take this in the wrong way, but Jesus was bold, meek and loving. He called the deceivers (Pharisees) for what they were, a brood of vipers. That name would perfectly fit the leadership of the Catholic Church.

Follow the link for more details. But yes Catholicism is a cult, and those in it's grip should be warned.

http://www.thebereancall.org/Newsletters/1991+Newsletters/7574.aspx

...taken from the above link.....

Those who believe Rome's lies and follow her gospel of works for salvation are lost. Failing to recognize this fact, many evangelical leaders and cult experts have themselves been deceived by Rome and need to be confronted and informed. How tragic to assume that Catholics are Christians who merely have some peripheral beliefs and practices which seem peculiar to Protestants but which will not prevent them from being saved. A false gospel is a false gospel, and it damns those who believe it, whether preached by Mormonism or Catholicism. A cult is a cult. Roman Catholics, like the members of other cults, need to be treated with compassion, warned of cultic lies, and presented with the true gospel which alone can save them.


See more from...

http://www.thebereancall.org/Search_Search.aspx?SectionID=1359&search=catholicism


79 posted on 04/14/2005 12:25:43 PM PDT by johnk (faithful with little....)
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To: johnk
You may criticize the Vatican and its huge corporate organization, and you may not like the Catholic rituals, and you may not like any sort of prayer to the Virgin Mary or special honor to the Pope.

However don't make the mistake of claiming that all Catholics are a cult or hellbound. No more so than all Baptists are a cult or hellbound. Come on now.

89 posted on 04/14/2005 12:29:47 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: johnk

Follow the link for more details. But yes Catholicism is a cult, and those in it's grip should be warned.




Now THAT'S an interesting response!! I'm too ignorant to argue either way (Even though I'm a non-practicing Catholic), but I'd like to see some debate starting with this post.

Hopefully the flames will remain low...


(And if it matters...I can't imagine Catholocism is any kind of "Cult". But then again, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with Islam...When NOT practiced by fanatics. And I've seen it called a cult here many times.)


92 posted on 04/14/2005 12:30:09 PM PDT by Dean Baker
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To: johnk

You're a nutty one! Catholics don't believe works save. Catholics believe we are saved by faith, but as James CLEARLY pointed out in his New Testament letter, "faith without works is not faith at all"... So, by extension, without works, your faith is useless. Without meat, you can't have a hamburger. You can believe that bun, tomato, and ketchup is a hamburger and call it that and declare yourself "nourished" for the forseeable future... but it's not a hamburger and you'll be hungry twenty minutes later.


98 posted on 04/14/2005 12:33:59 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: johnk

Ha! I knew you were a freeper Reverend!


152 posted on 04/14/2005 12:56:03 PM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: johnk

I really doubt a compassionate and supremely enlightened being is going to care about what formula you use to reach him.


289 posted on 04/14/2005 1:55:04 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: johnk

Kinda hard to explain how for fifteen hundred years (or at minimum, a thousand) there were no Christians at all who did not believe at least most of the "false doctrines" of the Catholic Church.

Sure, here and there you might find exceptions to a single given doctrine. ("This group rejected the 'apocrypha'"; "This group rejected bishops"; "This group rejected the divine presence in the Eucharist"; etc.) But there is no record of any group rejecting several false doctrines from the time of the gnostics until the Reformation.


399 posted on 04/14/2005 2:58:08 PM PDT by dangus
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To: johnk

Do you hate Jews as well.


742 posted on 04/15/2005 12:54:38 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Rule # 4. When liberals have factual evidence that their position is wrong they ignore the evidence)
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To: johnk

I'm sure it's comforting to believe that if you "accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior" and go right on sinning and living a selfish and uncharitable life, you will still go to Heaven; but we Catholics believe that we should worship Christ, indeed have a personal relationship with Him, confess our sins and strive to avoid sin (while realizing we are human and therefore sinful) and do good works.

If you think it's "works alone" you are seriously misguided.


1,190 posted on 04/22/2005 9:23:44 AM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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