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Indians charged for burying children alive
Yahoo News ^ | 04/13/2005 | staff writer

Posted on 04/14/2005 6:55:48 AM PDT by bedolido

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Indian police have charged 80 people for burying children alive in an ancient Hindu ceremony known as "the festival of pits".

The ceremony, in which children -- some less than a year old -- are buried alive briefly and then dug up, happened on Monday in southern Tamil Nadu state, The Asian Age reported on Thursday.

Authorities have been trying for years to stop it and people found guilty face up to three years in jail and or a fine of 5000 rupees (60.7 pounds).

Every two years, parents who have vowed to bury their first-born if they are blessed with a child, take part in the Kuzhimattru Thiru Vizha ceremony.

The children are drugged to make them unconscious and placed in shallow "graves" in temple courtyards. The pits are covered with leaves and dirt and the children are pulled out after Hindu priests chant a brief prayer -- lasting up to a minute.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alive; burying; charged; children; indians
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1 posted on 04/14/2005 6:55:52 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido

India has a ways to go before it gets "First World" status.


2 posted on 04/14/2005 6:56:59 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: bedolido

Paganism run amock.


3 posted on 04/14/2005 7:00:17 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Flashback.)
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To: bedolido

Man! The headline sure is worse than the story-I thought the kids were buried alive and left in the ground to die. (Not that being buried alive "briefly" would be fun, but at least the kids survive.)


4 posted on 04/14/2005 7:05:43 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: bedolido; redgolum; narses; maryz

Ping.


5 posted on 04/14/2005 7:06:57 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: bedolido

Hmm, symbolic burial alive or symbolic drowning? Don't be so quick to judge. the part that bothers me is the drugging.


6 posted on 04/14/2005 7:07:33 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (When we are tolerant, we should be careful to note whether it stems from convenience or conviction.)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So; Semper Paratus

Unfortunately, both of you are correct. Being of both "HIndu" and Indian background, this behaviour is particularly offensive to me.


7 posted on 04/14/2005 7:09:16 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: bedolido

Yet another example of the dangers of organized religion...IMNSHO.


8 posted on 04/14/2005 7:12:09 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: bedolido

Though apparently less dangerous than subjecting your kids to second-hand smoke for 18 years.


9 posted on 04/14/2005 7:16:24 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: SlowBoat407

I take it your refering to baptism by submersion, which is a symbolised cleansing, not drowning. To dunk someones head underwater for 2 seconds is different than burying children in the ground.


10 posted on 04/14/2005 7:18:56 AM PDT by CrazyJoeDivola
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To: bedolido

Valuing Diversity Ping!


11 posted on 04/14/2005 7:22:44 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: bedolido

-uh, well---it's not quite like the Thugee sect was---


12 posted on 04/14/2005 7:24:06 AM PDT by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: bedolido

Ah, to be Nadu, now that spring is here!

Last one in the pit's "Kaiser Bill!"

Say, how about a nice, short burial to pick up your day?

"Hey, dirt naps, get your dirt naps here!"(opening day slogan at the "Festival of the Pits").

Crazy, crazy people.


13 posted on 04/14/2005 7:25:04 AM PDT by RexBeach ("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
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To: bedolido
Indian police have charged 80 people for burying children alive in an ancient Hindu ceremony known as "the festival of pits".

This is literally the pits...

14 posted on 04/14/2005 7:25:41 AM PDT by Podkayne
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To: CrazyJoeDivola

it derives from symbolic death to rebirth in a new life. It's carried out in different ways in different cultures. I am a Christian, but I do recognize that many Christian traditions have their origins in much older, sometimes more "raw" ceremonies that have been made more civilized.


15 posted on 04/14/2005 7:32:46 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (When we are tolerant, we should be careful to note whether it stems from convenience or conviction.)
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To: SlowBoat407
Wow. What a comparison . . . Immersion baptism (symbolizing cleansing) vs. being drugged and buried under dirt (symbolizing what?).

Quick to judge? I was proud and touched to watch both my sons baptized a few years ago - and was never worried that they would be drugged or held under for a minute. I cannot imagine sticking my baby in a hole in the ground and kicking dirt over them, waiting for some priest to finish chanting, then digging them baby up hoping they were still breathing.

Nope . . . no comparison.

16 posted on 04/14/2005 7:46:05 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country)
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I already said that I had a problem with the drugging. From strictly symbolic point of view, the goal is the same, though: to "die and be reborn in a new life".

Having said that. I go on record as not being in favor of drugging and burying kids. I didn't really think I'd have to be that obvious, but there it is. As someone who is interested in cultural symbols, though, I still find it an interesting study.


17 posted on 04/14/2005 7:49:54 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (When we are tolerant, we should be careful to note whether it stems from convenience or conviction.)
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To: bedolido

This is both a cultural and religious practice, just because it seems barbaric to you discloses nothing but your prior mindset.


18 posted on 04/14/2005 7:56:48 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: bedolido

I saw this ritual in the movie "Motel Hell."


19 posted on 04/14/2005 7:56:56 AM PDT by sully777 (It's like my momma always said, "Two wrongs don't make a right but two Wrights make an airplane.")
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LOL...that's what came to my mind as well...


20 posted on 04/14/2005 8:05:47 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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