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Petco, PETA agree to truce over large birds
San Diego Daily Transcript ^ | Wed, Apr 13, 2005

Posted on 04/13/2005 1:50:05 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: nw_arizona_granny
It was my experience that many of your sick birds, would have improved with a better diet and vitamins.

Parrots have diseases, as we do, cancer is common.

Maybe. Maybe not. The rescue boards are flush with stories of birds who are loved and well-taken care of, yet start plucking and self-mutilating.

They all can't be diet or disease-related.

To play devil's advocate, why is Petco selling pets that are prone to cancer?

41 posted on 04/13/2005 4:13:42 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Calpernia

Once PETA gets an inch with you, they will be back again and again to take more.
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But NOBODY has answered my question about the legal grounds that PETA has against Petco. Why is Petco giving into these hacks?? On what legal basis are they caving?
Anyone can show me pictures of abused animals -- those pictures did not come FROM PETCO STORES!!!

WHAT IS THE LEGAL BASIS THAT CAUSED PETCO TO GIVE IN TO PETA???? I HAVE YET TO SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS PETCO WAS GUILTY OF WHAT -- ANIMAL CRUELTY??? HELLO??


42 posted on 04/13/2005 4:16:04 PM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Since they're birds, we can't tone down their sexual behavior through spaying and neutering because their avian anatomy doesn't lend itself to these procedures. So, the only thing we humans can do is to either learn to live with them through the breeding season or give them up.

I was wondering about spaying and neutering.
Any more details on their breeding season?

43 posted on 04/13/2005 4:17:10 PM PDT by kanawa (If I can't take FR with me, I'm NOT GOING!)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Nature is a lot more cruel than a loving pet owner.


44 posted on 04/13/2005 4:17:35 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
That is because PETA has won with them before. PetCo use to sell dogs and cats. Now PetCo houses cat adoptions within their store. This is the same thing they will be doing now with the birds.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

It sounds like you're saying that it is bad that Petco no longer sells mill-bred dogs and cats?

Do you support the large-scale breeding of dogs, cats & birds which will be sold in large chain stores?

45 posted on 04/13/2005 4:18:31 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: LibertyRocks

ummm. They have been trying to push vegan food for carnivorous pets. Really, I'm not kidding.

These people have major personality disorders and God knows what else.


46 posted on 04/13/2005 4:20:51 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: followerofchrist

>>>>denying them their most basic instinct

That can be said about all animals. Not just your preference for birds.

Either you support pet ownership or you don't.


47 posted on 04/13/2005 4:23:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: followerofchrist; Sender

Actually, I hear Sender keeps the birds in a shoebox with a brick ontop.

/sarc.


48 posted on 04/13/2005 4:26:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: tiredoflaundry

bump!


49 posted on 04/13/2005 4:26:53 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: presidio9

Damn. I'll have to go somewhere else to get a pet diatryma.


50 posted on 04/13/2005 4:27:23 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

That's pretty horrifying. And they're such intelligent and friendly creatures as well.


51 posted on 04/13/2005 4:29:19 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: damiansatana

>>>>>PeTa's ultimate goal is to stop any and all "exploitation" of animals as pets, for sports, entertainment, or food.

Actually, that is a front too. They are trying to keep a monopoly on the animal market.

Ever hear of their save a sato program? They import animals from THEIR PERSONAL puppy mills in 3rd world countries, use sob stories to scam companies and people for freebies like: N.W. Airlines, Vets, volunteers for labor/work and Food (IAMS), then keep the shelters stocked with the strays. They get grants and charge 'adoption fees'. It is pretty much a full profit business.

Hence is why they try to shut anyone down that is a threat to their 'income'.


52 posted on 04/13/2005 4:34:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: EagleUSA
But NOBODY has answered my question about the legal grounds that PETA has against Petco. Why is Petco giving into these hacks?? On what legal basis are they caving?

PETA mounted a boycott and an public-awareness campaign about Petco's cruel breeding practices and since Petco didn't want to go out of business, they chose to stop selling large birds.

Of course it helped that PETA is a Petco shareholders and filed a complaint with the SEC that Petco was omitting crucial information to investors, including specific sales figures for its animal business. I guess when the stock started dropping and sales fell off, the corporate bigwigs decided they needed to do something to reverse the trend.

53 posted on 04/13/2005 4:40:07 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Here's some examples of what parrots do to themselves in captivity

These are examples of birds who have been abused and or neglected.It is not a "fair" representation of pet birds.

54 posted on 04/13/2005 4:42:56 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (If you want to have a good time, you have to have a good watch!)
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To: Calpernia
That can be said about all animals.

Exactly. A dog's most basic instinct is as a pack hunter, and even the most domesticated dogs still display some aspects of that behavior. Meanwhile, Wisconson has been dealing with such a plague of ferral cats that they are seriously discussing reinstitution a cat hunt.

For that matter, a rock's "nature" is to be actively errorded over the millenia. Is keeping a pet rock cruel to that nature?

55 posted on 04/13/2005 4:44:44 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

>>>The reason Petco shouldn't be selling these birds is because there are a huge number of them stuck in cramped underfunded bird shelters, waiting for adoptive homes that will never come for most of them.

That is their excuse for all the 'pet stores'. No one should buy from anywhere but the shelters.

The number of legitimate stories is far smaller than the shelter stocking from PETA's 'mills'.

Besides, you can't tell consumers where to buy their products. There will also be people that go to shelters first. There will also be people that want to choose where to purchase.


56 posted on 04/13/2005 4:46:53 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: tiredoflaundry

57 posted on 04/13/2005 4:48:36 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

That picture is such a bad photo shop! OMG!

58 posted on 04/13/2005 4:48:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

yup


59 posted on 04/13/2005 4:50:54 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (If you want to have a good time, you have to have a good watch!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

>>>But, not everyone treats their birds so well or are able to properly deal with them.

Left talking point.

Not everyone does _______________ So no one can _____________


60 posted on 04/13/2005 4:52:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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