Posted on 04/13/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day
The Icewoman Cometh By Mark Steyn During the impeachment trial of blessed memory, I had a brief conversation with Sen. Barbara Boxer. My duty is to the Constitution, she said gravely. My duty is to preserve our two-party democratic system. Its up to the Democrats to save the Republican party from itself. Warming to her theme, the petite brunette liberal extremist noted the latest Republican poll numbers down somewhere between Robert Mugabe and the Ebola virus and explained, Thats not good for our democracy. This is a tragedy for the Republicans. The GOP has become the Get Our President party. Thats not the Republican party the people want. We have to reach out to them. Oh, come off it, I said. Well, okay, I didnt. Instead I nodded thoughtfully in a nonpartisan sort of way and marveled at the senators ability to reel off her bit with a straight face. Eventually, sensing a massive uncontainable guffaw rising in her gullet, Ms. Boxer wrapped it up and stepped into the Senate elevator. As the doors slid closed, muffled howls of laughter began to shake the Capitol, glass rattled in the windows, plaster fell from the ceiling . . . Politics affords few greater pleasures than offering ones opponents some friendly but hopefully lethal piece of advice. Were in one of those phases now hence, the vogue for columns on the Conservative Crackup, a fearsome beast that, like the Loch Ness Monster, more and more folks claim to have spotted looming in the distance. In reality, the unrelieved gloom is on the Dem side of the ledger: The Republicans are all but certain to increase their majority in 2006. Whereas, if you want the state of the Democratic party in a single image, cut out the photograph from the New York Times the other day: a pumped Robert C. Byrd giving a clenched-fist salute at a MoveOn.org rally. Thats the Rainbow Coalition 2005 model: a dwindling band of ancient vindictive legislators yoked to a cash-flush unrepresentative fringe. It would actually be to the Democrats advantage if the Byrd-Kos union were to crack up, but instead their union seems merely cracked, like a miscast double-act thrown together by a desperate burlesque agent. There is, however, one exception to the Dems dance of death: President-presumptive Rodham Clinton. The chances of a Rodham restoration in the White House are better than even. For one thing, the salient feature of the Clintons Democratic party is that it was grand for the Clintons, disastrous for the party: The Dems lost everything House, Senate, state legislatures, governorships but somehow Bill and Hill were always the lone exceptions that proved the rule. Clinton couldnt even bequeath the White House to his vice president in a time of peace and prosperity, yet the First Lady won an unprecedented victory in a state shed never lived in. There is no reason to believe the Clintons historical immunity to their partys remorseless decay will not continue. Second, the fact of a female candidate will send the media into orgies of diversity celebration. Right now, its the GOP with the star blacks (Rice), Hispanics (Martinez) and immigrants (Schwarzenegger), while the Dems are a sad collection of angry white males (Kennedy and Byrd). Were Condi to run against, say, Joe Biden in 2008, the press would play it strictly on the issues. But if its Bill Frist against Hill, get set for a non-stop cavalcade of stories with little inset photos of Mrs. Thatcher, Mrs. Gandhi, Mrs. Bandaranaike (Sri Lanka), Golda Meir, Benazir Bhutto, Helen Clark (New Zealand), etc., etc., and headlines like Is America Ready? that manage to imply ever so subtly that not voting for Hillary is the 2008 equivalent of declaring that Negroes are three-fifths of a human being. Yes, yes, I know cattle futures, HillaryCare . . . Thatll be 16 years old on Election Day and nobody or not enough will care. Third, the senator is a quick learner. Her initial campaign stops in the 2000 race were embarrassing: stiff, evasive, that robotic I Speak Your Weight voice. By the end, she was almost charming not lightly worn Fred-Astaire-romancing-Audrey-Hepburn charm; you could see she had to work at it. But nevertheless she did, and she succeeded. Smart folks adapt: For Republicans to assume theyll be running against the Hillary of 1992 is a big mistake. When you look at her feints to the right in the post-9/11 era, what matters is not whether she believes them but that shes the only Democrat with sufficient star quality to be able to ignore the deranged needs of UnableToMoveOn.org. Evan Bayh cant hence his pathetic vote against Condi. No male Democrat could get away with Hillarys tentative moves away from Dem orthodoxy on abortion: Kerry was reduced to claiming that, while he personally believed life begins at conception, he would never let his deep personal beliefs interfere with his legislative program; Dean was practically offering to perform partial-birth abortions on volunteers from the crowd. But, if a woman runs as kinda-sorta-pro-life-ish, Ill bet the NOW types decline to protest. Can Hillary be stopped? Obviously she can. But one lesson of the last 15 years is that the Democratic party is basically a dead husk its as effective as whoevers wearing it. In the Nineties, the Clintons swiped it. For the 2004 St. Vituss dance, Michael Moore and Barbra Streisand and MoveOn.org seized it and couldnt make it work. But, if Hill takes it back . . . Dont get me wrong. Biennial incremental gains by the GOP are set to continue for a while yet. But dont be surprised if November 2008 is the usual day of disaster for Democrats in the Senate, House, and states, with the exception of Hillarys election as president and Chelseas stunning victory in the North Dakota governors race.
To Hill and back.
I try to have a more optimistic outlook and hope Republicans and conservatives are smarter than that. I suspect that given a choice between McCain and Clinton, in most cases conservatives will do exactly what they did in 1992: stay home. Either way, Hillary wins.
...I can see you and I have nothing to discuss.
That's too bad. Closed minds are how we end up with filth like Clinton and McCain in the White House.
"I have had several women who are Democrats tell me that they would never vote for Hillary, and they say it emphatically."
My feeling is the soccer mom vote, would not pick a woman, especially not Hillary to protect them.
Hillary is a Communist and McCain is a maniac. I hope we are offered a better choice than that.
That would include a lot of us. I was recently on another thread having exactly the same discussion. There were at least a dozen FReepers saying exactly the same thing I did.
All things being equal, I would actually abstain from such a vote altogether. However, that doesn't change the fact that I believe a Clinton Presidency with the caveat of a strongly Republican Congress would be infinitely preferable to a McCain Presidency with the same Congress. After all, that's what our form of government is all about, isn't it?
Thats one thing many here discount.. when Clinton was in the white house our Republican congressmen were at the top of their game. Holding the spending steady, balancing the budget etc. And we had the prosperity to show for it.
You left out African-Americans, Seniors, and Hispanics. Those are larger numbers of voters than any you mentioned.
What would McCain get as post election payoff? Same deal as Vince Foster?
Are you a troll?
Are you a troll?
A good reason to vote for Hillary. I'd rather have a real good liar in the white house than an amateur.
I'm not even sure McCain will run. Every time I see him his face is puffier. He makes Dick Cheney look like a high school quarterback.
"The Dems lost everything House, Senate, state legislatures, governorships but somehow Bill and Hill were always the lone exceptions that proved the rule."
As I've said before, Hillary's campaign slogan will be: "It takes a Clinton....". You can fill in the blank, "to win the White House", "...to restore the Democratic Party.", etc., etc.
She's running and if she loses it will be very, very close. Too many women will vote for her 'because it's time for a woman president.'
Isn't there anyone out there who conceives of a new book in 2007 or so written by a Mr. X, the director of the Vince Foster, Ron Brown and TWA 800 chronicles? No secrets are forever are they?
Re Loch Ness Monster, it's now feigning moderation.Yeah. The media is carrying water for the "Hillary movin' to the center" BS.
Click here or on the pic for the article.
Senator Hillary Clinton (D)
New York
Democrat, Years of Service: 4
ACU Ratings for Senator Clinton: Year 2004 0 Year 2003 10 Lifetime 9
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The twice impeached Clintons in the White House again?
I'll bet good money against it.
The leftists are indeed stupid, but America as a whole is not that damn dumb. Yet.
That's pretty funny. If you don't know who the Dem voters are, then your opinions don't matter. You have no chance of swaying any of them. And you have little chance of getting any power with the GOPers who *do* know who their opposition is.
Hey, when you sell your soul to the devil...nothin' ON EARTH can stop you. billyblythe may not have long left on his contract; but hilly's still too healthy. Guess she hasn't had her contract fulfilled yet. She's abhorrent to everyone decent.
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