Posted on 04/13/2005 8:11:31 AM PDT by anotherview
By Uri Yablonka
Noam Federman: 'They won't be able to get to Gaza.'
Photo: Amit Shabi
TEL AVIV - "We are organizing violent riots in Arab villages during the disengagement plan to tie up soldiers and police officers who are supposed to remove settlements," right-wing ringleader Noam Federman declared.
In order to stymie his plan, Federman was placed under house arrest by the order of OC Central Command Maj. Gen.Yair Naveh on the advice of the Shin Bet's Jewish Department. It was the first punishment of its kind in the lead up to disengagement.
The agency has been identifying far-right activists it fears may take up arms during disengagement. It has also been collecting intelligence on subversive organizations that aim to stop disengagement by engaging in violent distrurbances.
The central fear is a provocation on the Temple Mount that could be interpreted by the Muslim population as a Jewish attempt to conquer the mosque area.
Tying up the police
In the last two months, at least 30 right-wing groups have threatened to engage in serious acts of lawbreaking to prevent police from removing settlements in Gaza and northern Samaria.
The house arrest of Federman came into force two days ago and will extend until September 1, a day after the completion of the disengagement plan.
However, Federman maintained, "It won't help them at all. I've set up a command center in my home and can do everything from here. We are working on drafting activists, so there won't be quiet anywhere."
(04.13.05, 11:11)
There wasn't enogh evidence to keep Noam Federman in jail. Israel is a country that follows the rule of law. However, these are people whom Shabak watches closely and sees as a real threat.
Disengagement will go forward. The extremists will not stop it. Thankfully we have a government that will stop the extremists when they attempt to carry out illegal acts and violence.
Somehow using fancy language devoid of logic you took the heros who are opposed to Judea, Samaria, and Gaza being "Judenrein," and turned them into extremists.
You took the appeasing Ariel Sharon who wants to use the Israeli military to kick Jews from their homes, and turned them into heros.
You're a fool, on a fools errand.
Disengagement will go forward.
True
The extremists will not stop it.
But they will cause a great deal of trouble in the meantime.
There's another option. Let em stay, with the understanding that they are ON THEIR OWN.
Let's create a scapegoat and dehumanize an entire segment of the population!
We are organizing violent riots in Arab villages during the disengagement plan to tie up soldiers and police officers who are supposed to remove settlements
Detention sounds like where he belongs.
Walk on eggshells to avoid provoking the Muslims.
Jump on any excuse to provoke the religious Jews.
Ain't democracy wonderful?
The illegal act is the "disengagement" plan. The extremists are Sharon and the Israeli government. Do you even know what there is at the Gaza "settlements"? Before Jews moved there, it was a wasteland. Now, in Gush Katif there are 1000 Acres of hydoponic hothouses, supplying 90% of all Israeli organic produce and a large amount of Europe's as well. Beautiful homes with productive upper-middle class Israelis lving, thriving and contributing. If Sharon and his cannibals succeed Gush Katif and the other homes will be destroyed my Arab marauders and turned into a slum. Here are some photos by a FReeper ("ziva") on recent visit to the Gaza "settlements" (PDF)...
Do you think none of the settlements should be surrendered, or that the gov'ment should be more selective about which ones to depart? Do you think that it is legitemate for the government to better preserve long term security by making Israel more defendable by pulling back from some settlements?
Yeah so goes the rest of Israel as Sharon and the Leftists continue to appease terrorists and get Jews killed!
Didn't you know? Anyone who wants to live in their home, and not be booted out is an EXTREMIST! All homeowners everywhere are of the devil! </sarcasm>
True
True, ONLY if we see God as being dead or asleep. These settlers have faith in His Promises, so don't count them (OR HIM) out just yet. ;)
Say for the sake of argument that there is no let up in terrorist attacks on Israel(something that could very well happen) what happens next? The IDF goes back in the with the full support of the Israeli people and the Bush administration(IMO).
The Bush administration might say for the looks of things that they need to ease travel restrictions into Israel and not retaliate inorder to give Arafat eh Abbas aother millionth chance to prove himself.
But they will cause a great deal of trouble in the meantime.
Oh, I agree. There are laws against incitement to violence or incitement to riot in Israel just as there are in the U.S. This is how Federman has once again been detained. I have no problem at all with people disagreeing with the Prime Minister, with them saying so, with them organizing peaceful protest. In a free society those are good things. Federman is talking about violence and that must be stopped.
There's another option. Let em stay, with the understanding that they are ON THEIR OWN.
Despite being villified by the Kahanists and other supporters of the exremists in the settler movement (a small minority of settlers, BTW) here on FR the plain fact is that Prime Minister Sharon is too decent and takes his responsibility to protect Jewish lives too seriously to do that. How ever much I disagree with these people most evacuees will not turn to violence and do NOT deserve to be left to the Palestinians' tender mercies. Judaism values every life and this is as it should be.
Being opposed to disengagement does not make one an extremist. Speaking out against disengagement does not make one an extremist. Protesting disengagement does not make one an extremist.
Violence and inciting violence makes one an extremist. Read what Noam Federman said in his own words. Please remember that even the Yesha Council wouldn't stand up behind those who plotted to blow up an Arab elementary school in Jerusalem. They disavowed these people.
Federman's involvement couldn't be proved, nor was there sufficient evidence to tie him to any other crime beyond a reasonable doubt (the same standard as used in American courts) so he was released. Now he openly talks of inciting violence. He convicts himself and most settlers will not and do not support this.
The extremists are those who plot violence as Federman does or those who carry it out as Yigal Amir and Baruch Goldstein did. Do you consider these people heroes? Was assassinating a Prime Minister or gunning down 29 people at prayer the act of a hero?
Prime Minister Sharon is no appeaser. There are 6,000 Jews in Gaza surrounded by something between 1.6 and 2 million Palestinians. It is a tactical move that will reduce Jewish deaths and put the IDF in a stronger position.
Finally, when did the Prime Minister propose pulling out of Judea? I haven't heard it. I thought it was President Bush who wanted to stop construction in Ma'aleh Adumim and the Prime Minister who stood firm and told the President that it was part of Israel.
Sharon is no leftist. The whole point of disengagement is to insure that fewer Jews are killed. The whole point is to leave us with defensible borders that the terrorists will find nearly impossible to breach. I'm sorry you can't see that.
The rest of Israel is fine and will be fine because we are strong. This will make us stronger.
That is indeed what those who wish to forcibly expel 1.5 million Arab Israelis do, even if these are people who live at peace with us and have done for decades or longer. Is that what you support?
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