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LA police commission clears way for lighter flashlights
AP ^ | 4/12/5

Posted on 04/12/2005 10:07:06 PM PDT by SmithL

LOS ANGELES - The city's police commission Tuesday cleared the way for Chief William Bratton to equip officers with lighter flashlights following last year's beating of a suspected car thief.

Lighter flashlights would be "in the best interest of the department, in the best interest of the city," Bratton said.

The civilian panel's vote allowing Bratton to select new flashlights came after Officer John Hatfield pummeled motorist Stanley Miller last June with a standard-issue flashlight. The beating led to widespread objections to using the device as a weapon.

Shortly after, Bratton began reviewing a series of flashlights on the market that would be smaller than the foot-long, 2-pound models now carried by LAPD officers. Among the possibilities is a 7-inch plastic version.

It could cost nearly $500,000 and take between six months to a year to purchase and distribute 9,200 flashlights, said police spokeswoman Sgt. Catherine Plows.

Some commissioners, however, questioned the need for new gear.

"We ought to give our officers an advantage, and that advantage is a piece of equipment they can use to defend themselves," said Alan Skobin, vice president of the police commission.

Bratton responded that a smaller flashlight would make it easier for officers to carry more safety gear. He claimed new flashlights were good for the department, not simply a political response to the Miller incident.

"There was no political pressure brought to bear from anyone in this matter," he said. "The idea for this new flashlight was mine."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nerfflashlights; thatidiotbratton
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Send Hahn, and that idiot, Bratton, out into LA armed only wit guns and those new Nerf flashlights, and watch the bodies pile up.
1 posted on 04/12/2005 10:07:06 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Uhhhhh...the flashlight is supposed to act as a weapon in some situations.


2 posted on 04/12/2005 10:10:44 PM PDT by Bogey78O (*tagline removed per request*)
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To: SmithL
It could cost nearly $500,000 and take between six months to a year to purchase and distribute 9,200 flashlights, said police spokeswoman Sgt. Catherine Plows.

Fifty bucks each for lightweight plastic flashlights?

3 posted on 04/12/2005 10:12:51 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: SmithL
I love my MAG-Lite!


4 posted on 04/12/2005 10:13:22 PM PDT by Flyer ( http://dahtcom.com)
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To: SmithL

Why not bring in Jocelyn Elders and have her design "safer weapons and safer bullets"..


5 posted on 04/12/2005 10:14:25 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Bogey78O
And a police chief is supposed to act like a leader in some situations,

but not in LA, I guess.

6 posted on 04/12/2005 10:14:27 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: SmithL
I don't know about lighter flashlights, but here's a flashlight lighter.


7 posted on 04/12/2005 10:16:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: supercat
Here's what the new flashlight looks like:


8 posted on 04/12/2005 10:18:28 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: SmithL

In his classic "Fundamentals of Modern Police Impact Weapons" self-defense expert Massad Ayoob went into detail as to how destructive Mag-lights were when used as bludgeons. Only to be used in such fashion when one is fighting for one's life and then one should be using one's sidearm.


9 posted on 04/12/2005 10:18:57 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: SmithL
"We ought to give our officers an advantage, and that advantage is a piece of equipment they can use to defend themselves," said Alan Skobin, vice president of the police commission.

Common sense amidst the idiocy. Chief Bratton apparently thinks he's a kindergarten teacher -- keep all the kids after class for the actions of one bad apple.

10 posted on 04/12/2005 10:22:53 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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To: sinanju

Otherwise, you'll leave the criminals feeling light-headed.


11 posted on 04/12/2005 10:23:38 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: SmithL

But if they're still hard, then the cops can swing em faster and theyll still hurt! =P


12 posted on 04/12/2005 10:30:19 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: SmithL

The "gun control" mentality at work. Blame the tool.

The problem isn't the tool, it's the tool wielder.

Do they still have nightsticks, or are those nerf'd too?


13 posted on 04/12/2005 10:31:37 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: sinanju

Massad Ayoob bump.


14 posted on 04/12/2005 10:35:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ( .:: Johannes Paulus Magnus: "Well done, good and faithful servant!" ::.)
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To: SmithL
They need to bring back Stacey Koon and flush all of these limp-wristed PC freaks out of the department.

And hire Axel Foley as lead detective.

15 posted on 04/12/2005 10:42:51 PM PDT by ServesURight
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"I love my MAG-Lite!"

I bought mine when my (cop) friend recommended it. "Get the one with the four 'D' batteries!" he said. He was pretty adamant that I get the heaviest one they made (snicker). I keep one in each car and one right next to my bed.
16 posted on 04/12/2005 10:51:52 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Never compromise with a Socialist. Always go for the throat. Socialism is evil.)
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To: SmithL
They really should carry four flashlights, two large and two smaller ones!...


17 posted on 04/12/2005 10:53:00 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They need changing often, and for the same reason!)
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To: SmithL

I thought that's what those Mag Lite's are for. I thought that's why the nice round lens holder was machined that way so it fits perfectly into the palm of your hand a certain way so you don't drop it when you hit somebody. That's why I carried one in my car.

That's why bouncers in clubs carry Mag Lites. It's a "flashlight" in case of a "power failure" that you can also use as a nice solid club.

What's wrong with that? Maybe they should issue the LAPD little pink sissy girly flashlights. The criminals and gang members would love it.


18 posted on 04/12/2005 10:57:18 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: infidel44

Good point. A slew of cops (and my friend at 911) all told me the same thing: if you have to draw your gun, *never shoot to wound*. "You were in fear of your life and you fired." They were adamant about that, too.

(As you might guess, I have a lot of cop friends. Even my cousin is one).


20 posted on 04/12/2005 11:45:24 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Never compromise with a Socialist. Always go for the throat. Socialism is evil.)
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