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Eyewitness report from the US/Mexico border from two Minuteman Project volunteers - 9 & 10 April
email | 9 & 10 April 2005 | Jack & Barb

Posted on 04/12/2005 9:03:38 PM PDT by Spiff

Eyewitness report from the Arizona/Mexico border from two Minuteman volunteers

Jack & Barb
April 9, 2005

Wind is really strong today. Blew over one of the porta-pots they put out in the field for the tenters to use. It was very strong out on the line for the time we were there.

Lots of new people came in today. Some to stay the weekend and some for a week or more. It is encouraging to see new people arrive every day.

We received an official BP report today. Only 74 aliens arrested yesterday where normally there are hundreds. In the sector where normally 500 to 600 aliens cross daily there were 0 arrested.

I mentioned yesterday that the BP was getting friendlier. The Agents in the field are but we found out today that they have a supervisor on duty 24/7 specifically assigned to interrogate any illegal aliens that are spotted and reported by the Minutemen and arrested by the BP to determine if the Minutemen did, said or even gestured anything that they can charge the Minutemen with. Our government does not want the Minuteman project to succeed. The BP supervisors are following the party line like the good little sheep they are and they are afraid that if the Minutemen project succeeds it will show the world how ineffective the BP is under the direction of its present supervisors. Washington DC does not want us to succeed.

We still have news media running all over the place interviewing everyone and taking pictures of everything in sight. A TV crew from Russia showed up today. Crews from Japan and Australia have been here also.

Barb volunteered for a 2-hour shift in the communications center today when we got back in from the line. Then we stood security on the main gate from 8 to 12. It was quiet for a change but I thought I was back in Washington state it was so cold out there.

Minutemen patrols observed and reported numerous attempts of groups attempting to cross last night in the mountains. The BP caught some of them and some got away. (They call them “get-a-ways”)

News Flash: The US Government announced today a plan that will tighten all borders by 2008. Unfortunately Mexico announced a plan to have all their people here by 2007.

Now Bush pay attention, we said:”CLOSE THE BORDERS”

Until tomorrow!!!!


Eyewitness report from the Arizona/Mexico border from two Minuteman volunteers

Jack & Barb

April 10, 2005

This is the tenth day of the Minutemen project and we are still determined to hold the line. Local law enforcement and individual Border Patrol Agents speaking off the record, say the illegal immigration has virtually stopped in the sector patrolled by the Minutemen. We have destroyed the historic immigration myth that it impossible to stop illegal immigrants.

Are you paying attention President Bush!?

Got up this morning and went out on the Naco Line and manned an observation post from 9A to 2P. The Mexican Federal Police (Federale) across the border were very active today. Directly across from our observation post is a group of oak trees, a large ravine, and a couple of railway trestles. The Mexican government has set up a large water point in these trees where illegals can get water and lay up and wait for opportunities to enter the US. The Mexicans call it Camp Freedom. The Federales were congregating in this area all day, which is unusual. We watched them - ­they watched us. Touché!!!

Lou Dobbs came out to the Naco line this morning to look around. He is going to be doing a TV show about the Minutemen and wanted first hand information for his programs.

A couple of locals that stopped by today stated they had never seen so many Border Patrol in the area we are observing as they have since we have been there. One local stated they have trouble getting them to respond when they spot illegals coming across and report it. Most of the locals thank us over and over for drawing attention to the problems along the border. There are some who don’t want us here for whatever reasons. Everyone has the draw his or her own conclusions. It is a rumored some conspire with the smugglers. Anything is possible down here.

Returned to the camp at 2P to assist in the communications center, keeping records, answering phones and manning radios. It is a very busy place at times.

Oh yeah, on the way back to camp from the line Barb and I spotted an illegal walking along the highway about a half mile from camp. We notified the Border Patrol and he was picked up.

Lots of action out by the mountains last night. Numerous spottings of attempted crossing by Minutemen. Rumor has it the illegals and drug smugglers are backed up in the mountains because we are watching this part of the border so closed. They are running out of food and water and some of them are making desperate runs across. We spot and report them and the Border Patrol manages to catch some of them. It is like a three ring circus down here. Like a game of hide and seek everyday. Border Patrol searches them out, apprehends them, gives them food and water, medical care if they need it, and a free ride back to Mexico. Then they turn around and do the same thing the next night. Sometimes with the same person. Burn out must be high for them.

Stood security at the gate from 8P to 12P cold but uneventful. Another day for the Minutemen

Don’t worry though; King George didn’t like the original Minutemen either.

Until Tomorrow!!!!!!!!


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderintruders; borderinvasion; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; criminalinvaders; donutwatch; govwatch; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; mmp
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To: ClintonBeGone


41 posted on 04/12/2005 10:14:49 PM PDT by HiJinx (Along the Border, sometimes it's OK for even a FReeper to support the bad guys.)
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To: budwiesest
Those above the fray fail to recognize how our porous souther border causes us to appear weak internationally and how this threatens our endeavors elsewhere such as Iraq and Afganistan.

Do you really think the folks over in Iraq and Afganistan, having seen up close US firepower, really think your country is weak? You can't seriously believe that.

42 posted on 04/12/2005 10:15:42 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
How soon we forget, and the news media sure ain't reminding us--but as I recall, a number of the 911 killers got their phony driver's licenses and other id from illegal (Mexican)aliens.
I would not be the least bit shocked to learn that those same illegals-- are still in the US-- and stand ready to meet the needs of new terrorists, along with their regular client line of the ordinary illegals cashing in on gov benefit ripoffs.
No sweat though, Bush and his team are on top of it all...
Ha Ha
The joke's on us !
43 posted on 04/12/2005 10:18:29 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: CharlieChan
How soon we forget, and the news media sure ain't reminding us--but as I recall, a number of the 911 killers got their phony driver's licenses and other id from illegal (Mexican)aliens.

Can you fault us for forgetting something that isn't true? Can you cite a source for another slander against Mexicans?

44 posted on 04/12/2005 10:22:25 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

I seriously believe that where you appear weak (our border enforcement) your enemy will ultimately exploit it. Besides, it's an image 'thingy' and it would be wise if we did our best to uphold it. The world's last great superpower ought not have an exposed underbelly. Sneaking into this country ought not be any easier than sneaking onto a Marine base.


45 posted on 04/12/2005 10:22:43 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: ClintonBeGone; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
Do you really think the folks over in Iraq and Afganistan, having seen up close US firepower, really think your country is weak? You can't seriously believe that.

I'm sorry, what did you say? That's a bit of an odd way to phrase that comment...

46 posted on 04/12/2005 10:23:38 PM PDT by HiJinx (Along the Border, sometimes it's OK for even a FReeper to support the bad guys.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
What is that saying about doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same results?

I think that is called government. They have learned to slow down, though, so that each cycle takes longer. Sort of like a union job. Come to think of it, I guess that is what it is.

47 posted on 04/12/2005 10:27:14 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Do you really think the folks over in Iraq and Afganistan, having seen up close US firepower, really think your country is weak?

I notice that you didn't say OUR country. Very telling.

48 posted on 04/12/2005 10:29:54 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: HiJinx

I didn't even notice that, thanks. Sometimes my brain fixes typos so quickly that I must have thought they meant 'our' country. Sheesh.


49 posted on 04/12/2005 10:31:48 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: budwiesest
I seriously believe that where you appear weak (our border enforcement) your enemy will ultimately exploit it. Besides, it's an image 'thingy' and it would be wise if we did our best to uphold it.

But border patrol has never been a priority in this country, yet the US has won many a wars. I understand your point, but I don't think the rest of the world perceives Mexico as an enemy of America. Hell, you might as well include the Canadians - we're all Americans.

50 posted on 04/12/2005 10:32:34 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
What is that saying about doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same results?

You are a comedy genius.

You reeled me in like a fish ... I had actually believed that you were an obtuse thread baiting moron, but I realize now that you are to comedy and irony what Einstein was to physics.

I had started to feel sorry for someone so clueless that they never know when they are totally out gunned and outclassed ... I see now that you are here to help us all realize, in a very creative and crafty way, that there are people as dense and clueless as you pretend to be on these threads.

I have always heard it said that it takes a really smart person to convincingly act like a really stupid person.

You, sir, are a genius.

51 posted on 04/12/2005 10:37:53 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
I don't think the rest of the world perceives Mexico as an enemy of America.

They're not an enemy, but they're making a mockery of our border integrity. If they had any class, they'd put a stop to it on their side immediately.

52 posted on 04/12/2005 10:39:50 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: ClintonBeGone
But border patrol has never been a priority in this country, yet the...

Which country, yours or ours? Or was that really a typo?

53 posted on 04/12/2005 10:41:12 PM PDT by HiJinx (In the Border Threads, sometimes it's OK for even a FReeper to support the bad guys.)
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To: budwiesest
They're not an enemy, but they're making a mockery of our border integrity. If they had any class, they'd put a stop to it on their side immediately.

Think about the US trying to do that to its own citizens. It could never work - and the US has many more resources than Mexico.

54 posted on 04/12/2005 10:45:01 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Hell, you might as well include the Canadians - we're all Americans.

It might surprise you, but the rest of the world doesn't consider Canadians "Americans." They consider Canadians "Canadian."

55 posted on 04/12/2005 10:48:06 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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To: Spiff; HiJinx
Just got your ping and thx. Going to read now, but thought I'd thank you and Hi from the start. I so look forward to these posts.

Nam Vet

56 posted on 04/12/2005 10:50:30 PM PDT by Nam Vet (MSM reporters think the MOIST dream they had the night before is a "reliable source".)
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To: ClintonBeGone

So you say it's not true that illegal aliens sold some of the 911 muslims phony ids. They did have phony ids, don't you agree? Do you know where the muslims got the ids?
Just shooting your mouth off saying it's not true, doesn't make it so.
Then you say, "Can you cite a source for another slander against Mexicans?" I have no idea what you mean by another slander against Mexicans. Would you point out samples of the "slanders" you have in mind?
If you had simply asked to dig out the source, I'd be happy to do it. But instead you act like a brainless attack dog.


57 posted on 04/12/2005 10:51:07 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: Spiff
The BP supervisors are following the party line like the good little sheep they are and they are afraid that if the Minutemen project succeeds it will show the world how ineffective the BP is under the direction of its present supervisors. Washington DC does not want us to succeed.

This makes it only too clear, what many of us have known for a long time now, that Bush and the RINO leadership do not want to stem the tide of illegal immigration. They follow an agenda of open borders with Mexico and the MMP is putting a chill right down their back.

58 posted on 04/12/2005 10:51:53 PM PDT by WRhine (Is anything Treasonous these days?)
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To: Spiff

I agree with you Spiff, not to refer to "OUR country is VERY telling."


59 posted on 04/12/2005 10:54:11 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: ClintonBeGone
It could never work

Such optimism. Didn't I read that Mexican authorities were diverting potential border crossers from the area under question? How 'bout they divert them back to where they came from?

Like I said, if they had any class, they'd have taken care of the problem long ago as a sign of solidarity with a very important trading partner and neighbor to the north.

60 posted on 04/12/2005 10:54:54 PM PDT by budwiesest
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