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Eyewitness report from the US/Mexico border from two Minuteman Project volunteers - 9 & 10 April
email | 9 & 10 April 2005 | Jack & Barb

Posted on 04/12/2005 9:03:38 PM PDT by Spiff

Eyewitness report from the Arizona/Mexico border from two Minuteman volunteers

Jack & Barb
April 9, 2005

Wind is really strong today. Blew over one of the porta-pots they put out in the field for the tenters to use. It was very strong out on the line for the time we were there.

Lots of new people came in today. Some to stay the weekend and some for a week or more. It is encouraging to see new people arrive every day.

We received an official BP report today. Only 74 aliens arrested yesterday where normally there are hundreds. In the sector where normally 500 to 600 aliens cross daily there were 0 arrested.

I mentioned yesterday that the BP was getting friendlier. The Agents in the field are but we found out today that they have a supervisor on duty 24/7 specifically assigned to interrogate any illegal aliens that are spotted and reported by the Minutemen and arrested by the BP to determine if the Minutemen did, said or even gestured anything that they can charge the Minutemen with. Our government does not want the Minuteman project to succeed. The BP supervisors are following the party line like the good little sheep they are and they are afraid that if the Minutemen project succeeds it will show the world how ineffective the BP is under the direction of its present supervisors. Washington DC does not want us to succeed.

We still have news media running all over the place interviewing everyone and taking pictures of everything in sight. A TV crew from Russia showed up today. Crews from Japan and Australia have been here also.

Barb volunteered for a 2-hour shift in the communications center today when we got back in from the line. Then we stood security on the main gate from 8 to 12. It was quiet for a change but I thought I was back in Washington state it was so cold out there.

Minutemen patrols observed and reported numerous attempts of groups attempting to cross last night in the mountains. The BP caught some of them and some got away. (They call them “get-a-ways”)

News Flash: The US Government announced today a plan that will tighten all borders by 2008. Unfortunately Mexico announced a plan to have all their people here by 2007.

Now Bush pay attention, we said:”CLOSE THE BORDERS”

Until tomorrow!!!!


Eyewitness report from the Arizona/Mexico border from two Minuteman volunteers

Jack & Barb

April 10, 2005

This is the tenth day of the Minutemen project and we are still determined to hold the line. Local law enforcement and individual Border Patrol Agents speaking off the record, say the illegal immigration has virtually stopped in the sector patrolled by the Minutemen. We have destroyed the historic immigration myth that it impossible to stop illegal immigrants.

Are you paying attention President Bush!?

Got up this morning and went out on the Naco Line and manned an observation post from 9A to 2P. The Mexican Federal Police (Federale) across the border were very active today. Directly across from our observation post is a group of oak trees, a large ravine, and a couple of railway trestles. The Mexican government has set up a large water point in these trees where illegals can get water and lay up and wait for opportunities to enter the US. The Mexicans call it Camp Freedom. The Federales were congregating in this area all day, which is unusual. We watched them - ­they watched us. Touché!!!

Lou Dobbs came out to the Naco line this morning to look around. He is going to be doing a TV show about the Minutemen and wanted first hand information for his programs.

A couple of locals that stopped by today stated they had never seen so many Border Patrol in the area we are observing as they have since we have been there. One local stated they have trouble getting them to respond when they spot illegals coming across and report it. Most of the locals thank us over and over for drawing attention to the problems along the border. There are some who don’t want us here for whatever reasons. Everyone has the draw his or her own conclusions. It is a rumored some conspire with the smugglers. Anything is possible down here.

Returned to the camp at 2P to assist in the communications center, keeping records, answering phones and manning radios. It is a very busy place at times.

Oh yeah, on the way back to camp from the line Barb and I spotted an illegal walking along the highway about a half mile from camp. We notified the Border Patrol and he was picked up.

Lots of action out by the mountains last night. Numerous spottings of attempted crossing by Minutemen. Rumor has it the illegals and drug smugglers are backed up in the mountains because we are watching this part of the border so closed. They are running out of food and water and some of them are making desperate runs across. We spot and report them and the Border Patrol manages to catch some of them. It is like a three ring circus down here. Like a game of hide and seek everyday. Border Patrol searches them out, apprehends them, gives them food and water, medical care if they need it, and a free ride back to Mexico. Then they turn around and do the same thing the next night. Sometimes with the same person. Burn out must be high for them.

Stood security at the gate from 8P to 12P cold but uneventful. Another day for the Minutemen

Don’t worry though; King George didn’t like the original Minutemen either.

Until Tomorrow!!!!!!!!


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderintruders; borderinvasion; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; criminalinvaders; donutwatch; govwatch; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; mmp
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To: ClintonBeGone
Well most would be wrong.

That's impossible. If most people in the world believe "American" refers to a US citizen, then that's what it means. It is simply short for, "United States of America". Even most people in the Mexico and Canada acknowledge that America refers to the USA.

Word definitions are one area where the majority rule.

By the way, what country are you from? Where were you born?

141 posted on 04/13/2005 9:48:54 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Cowboy Bob

The third wayers, like clinton want to change that. They want to integrate our countries at US taxpayers expense. No borders, we're all Americans, yada, yada, yada. They're also the ones who feel "human rights" are supreme to Constitutional rights.


142 posted on 04/13/2005 9:50:12 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: HiJinx
Lou Dobbs came out to the Naco line this morning to look around. He is going to be doing a TV show about the Minutemen and wanted first hand information for his programs.

I was listening to Sean Hannity today as he interviewed Jim Gilchrist. Jim invited him down to look the situation over, and Sean committed to looking into coming down next week some time. He said he could probably do his radio show from their affiliate (KNST/790AM) in Tucson and drive down afterwards.

Lou Dobbs will have a segments called 'Broken Borders' on tonight (Wed, April 13) on CNN 6-7 EST. I asssume this is the one that the MMP will be on.

And it is great that Hannity will also visit the frontline. Please do post if you hear when it will air.
143 posted on 04/13/2005 9:54:27 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Bush talks about jobs Americans won't do - one we will do is (undocumented) U.S. Border Patrol Agent)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
[ Did you catch iit when, in referring to mexicans, Mr. Morones said "we are not terrorists". Whoops. Guess that was a slip of the tongue, ]

True they are not..
They are INSURGENTS....

144 posted on 04/13/2005 10:02:49 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Some of us put accuracy above agenda.

And some of you don't.

145 posted on 04/13/2005 10:26:29 AM PDT by HiJinx (In Border Threads, sometimes it's OK for even a FReeper to root against the good guys.)
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To: Boot Hill; wardaddy; Travis McGee; in the Arena; Marine Inspector; HiJinx; Dead Corpse; ...
I have suspected for some time that CBG is either not a American citizen or perhaps a citizen who feels little or no loyalty to America. There is no other way to read his posts. Moreover, he is very careful to avoid answering any question that might reveal exactly who he is.

Your post really nails his a$$ to the barn door.

146 posted on 04/13/2005 10:39:21 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Some of us put accuracy above agenda.

ROTFL. You are a comedy GENIUS!!!

147 posted on 04/13/2005 11:19:59 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Thanks for that little tidbit, at least we know what country ClintonBeGone is rooting for, or from for that matter.

"It" seems to revel in being stark naked with all its agenda exposed for everyone to see. Quite strange.....

148 posted on 04/13/2005 11:21:41 AM PDT by WRhine (Is anything Treasonous these days?)
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To: FBD
I can completly understand Jim Robinson's concerns about some white supremacists trying to infiltrate his website ...

Apparently Jim has no concern about the obvious "Brown Supremacists" trolling the threads here on a daily basis, belittling the US military, referring to the MinuteMan Project and The MinuteMan KLAN, slandering FreeRepublic members who are employed to defend our borders, and promoting their Reconquista plans for their version of "America". Because it is happening over and over and over again, day after day.

149 posted on 04/13/2005 11:31:10 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

DP


150 posted on 04/13/2005 11:32:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: spodefly
"referring to the MinuteMan Project and The MinuteMan KLAN" should be "referring to the MinuteMan Project as The MinuteMan KLAN"
151 posted on 04/13/2005 11:36:52 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Think about the US trying to do that to its own citizens. It could never work - and the US has many more resources than Mexico.

Funny then that the Mexican army has been able to temporarily stop or redirect the flow. They obviously have some resources. In fact, they have lots of the necessary resources, people on the government payroll. Heck they still have a military draft, or did last I checked anyway, so manpower is not a problem. The will to do something, even something we'd gladly help pay for, is another thing entirely.

152 posted on 04/13/2005 1:44:53 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Dan Evans
Most people in the world use the term "American" to refer to people in the United States of America. Only the most politically correct will refer to Mexicans or Canadians as Americans.

English speakers, yes. Canadians would never call themselves Americans. However those from South of the Rio Grande do sometimes refer to themselves as Americans, and of course technically they are correct. However Mexicans would never refer to themselves as Norte Americanos, and that too would be technically correct.

153 posted on 04/13/2005 1:49:11 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Spiff

Hi spiff......

I have lost track of the miles and the numbers. Perhaps you could remind me.

If the Minutemen volunteers were replaced with military or national guard types how many would be required?

I suspect a primary reason the project is not liked is because a volunteer effort while quite effecive is not considered sustainable. To develop an official effort would be very expensive. I would hope the minute men are as dedicated as our Free Republic DC chapter and just keep on keeping on.

The cost sword cuts both ways and I expect you guys have made a dent in the Mexican economy by shutting off the flow. It is impossible to speculate the results of this lost cash flow.

any way......good job.


154 posted on 04/13/2005 2:02:00 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: El Gato
However those from South of the Rio Grande do sometimes refer to themselves as Americans,

They might try to give that impression after they arrive here illegally, but the fact is they already a name. If they are from Mexico, they are Mexicans. If they don't like who they are, they shouldn't try to steal our name because we only have the one.

We are Americans. As in United States of America.

155 posted on 04/13/2005 2:10:24 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: FBD
You couldn't beat the Mexicans lead by brother Santa Anna at the Alamo -

I do believe Santa Ana was captured at San Jacinto just a few weeks after the end of the Battle of the Alamo. At the Alamo a few hundred Texicans AND Tejanos, held up Santa Ana's army of thousands for 13 days. Allowing Sam Houston time to organize a force of more Texicans and Tejanos, less than a thousand of which then attacked Santa Ana's troops at San Jacinto. Santa Ana tried to sneak away dressed as a peon, but was captured by one James Sylvester. He tried to convince Sylvester that he was merely an aide to Santa Ana, but that didn't stand up any more than his previous tale of being only a common soldier.

With characteristic charity, Santa Ana was released, in return for recognition of Texas independence. It would have been better, for both the United States and for Mexico, if Sam Houston had had him hung.

156 posted on 04/13/2005 2:23:21 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: FBD
You couldn't beat the Mexicans lead by brother Santa Anna at the Alamo -

I do believe Santa Ana was captured at San Jacinto just a few weeks after the end of the Battle of the Alamo. At the Alamo a few hundred Texicans AND Tejanos, held up Santa Ana's army of thousands for 13 days. Allowing Sam Houston time to organize a force of more Texicans and Tejanos, less than a thousand of which then attacked Santa Ana's troops at San Jacinto. Santa Ana tried to sneak away dressed as a peon, but was captured by one James Sylvester. He tried to convince Sylvester that he was merely an aide to Santa Ana, but that didn't stand up any more than his previous tale of being only a common soldier.

With characteristic charity, Santa Ana was released, in return for recognition of Texas independence. It would have been better, for both the United States and for Mexico, if Sam Houston had had him hung.

157 posted on 04/13/2005 2:23:39 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Boot Hill
"[Vincente] Fox absolutely must be reelected." --ClintonBeGone

He's ignorant as well as obstinate then. Mexican Presidents serve a single 6 year term.

158 posted on 04/13/2005 2:32:42 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: wardaddy
there is an el grupo here who should be on Vincente's payroll if they are not already.

There is "un grupo", or "an grupo", I guess. "el" in this context, is the same as "the" "an the group" doesn't make sense, even in Spanglish. :)

159 posted on 04/13/2005 2:38:03 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: spodefly

That is a good point, and I agree.
I'm baffled by that also.

But, it's his website to do as he sees fit...

Regards


160 posted on 04/13/2005 2:40:21 PM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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