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John Kerry Outs Undercover Intelligence Agent in Bolton Hearing
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Posted on 04/11/2005 12:34:14 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier

I don't know if anyone else is watching this, but the Senate hearing on John Bolton has repeatedly referred to a "Mr. Smith" whom Bolton said had behaved unprofessionally.

Well, Sen. John Kerry just gave "Mr. Smith's" name in the open hearing.

Once a jackass, always a jackass.


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To: self_evident
It that's true, then I will stand corrected. But there are many other reasons that they would avoid using the name. We will see.

It is true. It doesn't matter what the reasons were to avoid using the name. The point is that they didn't and that they cited security reasons. Kerry screwed up and should be called on it. I am not calling for prosecution or jail terms. I just want to show again what a jerk and hypocrite he is.

121 posted on 04/11/2005 4:27:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: The Old Hoosier

self-ping


122 posted on 04/11/2005 4:34:25 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: self_evident
I'm still very skeptical about whether this has security implications and agree with justshutupandtakeit that it needs investigation before action.

Investigation? Nothing to investigate. Kerry inadvertantly provided the name of a CIA officer on national TV--a name that everyone else at the hearing scrupulously avoided mentioning for the stated reason of security considerations. Kerry screwed up and should be held accountable.

123 posted on 04/11/2005 4:34:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: OXENinFLA

Well, now that Kerry outed him, yes Mr. Smith should be removed. For his own safety!


124 posted on 04/11/2005 4:39:24 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Sloth

His career stops at 1999.
He's undercover all right.

You don't mention an employee during Senate hearings that may have retired six years ago - the reason his resume is clean is because nobody was supposed to know him.


125 posted on 04/11/2005 4:43:08 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: kabar
Kerry screwed up and should be called on it. I am not calling for prosecution or jail terms. I just want to show again what a jerk and hypocrite he is.

Heh, no problem with that. It's clear that everyone else respected the "Mr. Smith" line and Kerry felt above all that. It will be interesting to read the transcript. Maybe Kerry will have the offending reference delete (the old revise and extend gambit), in which case he will have said it, before he didn't say it.
126 posted on 04/11/2005 4:43:35 PM PDT by self_evident (#47 and #60)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Still thanking the good Lord that Kerry remained the junior senator from Taxachusettes.
127 posted on 04/11/2005 5:31:55 PM PDT by b4its2late (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
And.....

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128 posted on 04/11/2005 5:32:58 PM PDT by b4its2late (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy.)
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To: kabar

Hi-I decided to check in on the replay of the hearing--I am going to try to record the part with Kerry, but I was watching Lugar's opening remarks and he was listing all of the people that have been interviewed by the Senators re: Bolton getting mad at Westman---he named Mr. Finger, Mr. Westman., Mr. Ford, then said something about an Intell.-CIA, Latin American, then just said the word "Armstrong", then went on to name some other names....

So, I really don't know, unless Lugar inadvertantly gave the LAST name after naming what he did, ie. CIA agent.

So, what do you think?


129 posted on 04/11/2005 6:13:10 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: An American Patriot

So, I guess what you are saying is, even if John Kerry did out a CIA agent, it wouldn't matter---some harm, no foul, seems to be the Senates credo---

BTW, I don't know which FReeper has posted threads regarding the LOST---Land - Sea Treaty that is supposedly really bad for the US, and Senator Jeff Sessions has lectured against, BUT Bolton was asked today by Sen. Sarbanes about this treaty---Bolton said he hadn't read it, but knew that the Bush Admin was in favor, so he would be also....

If anyone that reads this thread knows which Freeper has been interested in this, please pass on the information.


130 posted on 04/11/2005 6:26:12 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: The Old Hoosier; hipaatwo
Indexing related threads:
Did Kerry Out a Federal Agent During Bolton Hearing?
  Posted by hipaatwo
On News/Activism 04/11/2005 2:34:47 PM PDT · 82 replies · 2,322+ views


NRO Beltway Buzz ^ | April 11, 2005
 

John Kerry Outs Undercover Intelligence Agent in Bolton Hearing
  Posted by The Old Hoosier
On News/Activism 04/11/2005 12:34:14 PM PDT · 127 replies · 9,872+ views


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131 posted on 04/11/2005 6:26:55 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Txsleuth
BTW, I don't know which FReeper has posted threads regarding the LOST---Land - Sea Treaty that is supposedly really bad for the US, and Senator Jeff Sessions has lectured against, BUT Bolton was asked today by Sen. Sarbanes about this treaty---Bolton said he hadn't read it, but knew that the Bush Admin was in favor, so he would be also....

If anyone that reads this thread knows which Freeper has been interested in this, please pass on the information.
Click HERE:
search FR archives for "sea treaty"
There appear to be MANY FReepers interested in the "LOST" treaty...

132 posted on 04/11/2005 6:35:50 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: AmericanInTokyo
shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both

Can a US Senator be charged with a crime while the Senate is in session?

133 posted on 04/11/2005 6:36:28 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: keat

Not me.

He's history
Stale
Boring
Ignorant
In other words the same arrogant, pompous A__ he was during the campaign.

Notice he and the Breck Girl surface at almost the same time? They must think there are BRAINS in numbers. :) They are WRONG. :) Where is Tahraysa I wonder?


134 posted on 04/11/2005 6:39:12 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: RonDog

Thank you---I looked and found a pretty recent thread about it---I appreciate the help!!

I am disappointed that Bolton said he was in favor, but I have to remind myself that a UN Ambassador is a diplomatic position, not a policy position.

Therefore, it is incumbent on all that are against it to contact their Senators and/or the White House, IMHO.


135 posted on 04/11/2005 6:40:20 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: The Old Hoosier; All
AP has picked up the story.
136 posted on 04/11/2005 6:44:12 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: Txsleuth

Interesting. I didn't catch that from Lugar. Perhaps it was because the names didn't have any real context until the Q&As. If that is the case, Lugar also screwed up. During the give and take part of the hearings, they were all circumspect about mentioning his name citing security. Nonetheless, Kerry's remarks would make a good sound bite on Rush's show tomorrow.


137 posted on 04/11/2005 6:55:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Did you notice that the AP is now reporting the same story?


138 posted on 04/11/2005 7:00:51 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: The Old Hoosier

I hate all the traitors trying to destroy America.....the crowd in DC are the most corrupt in all of America including 5 of the supreme court judges.


139 posted on 04/11/2005 7:01:05 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: kabar
Interesting.

I didn't catch that from Lugar.

See also, from www.armscontrolwonk.com:

"Mr. Smith" is Fulton Armstrong

The anonymous “Mr. Smith” from the Bolton hearings, if I understand Senators Kerry and Lugar correctly, is Fulton Armstrong, National Intelligence Officer for Latin America since June 2000.

Here is Armstrong’s bio from an archived copy of the NIC website (as of December 2003):

Fulton Armstrong
National Intelligence Officer for Latin America

Fulton T. Armstrong was appointed National Intelligence Officer for Latin America on 1 June 2000. Previously Mr. Armstrong served as Chief of Staff of the DCI Crime and Narcotics Center (CNC). Prior to that, he served two terms as a Director for Inter-American Affairs at the National Security Council (1995-97 and 1998-99) and as Deputy NIO for Latin America (1997-98).

Mr. Armstrong began his government career in 1980 as Legislative Assistant and Press Secretary to US Representative Jim Leach. In 1984-95, he served as analyst, political-economic officer, and manager specializing in Latin America in the both the intelligence and policy communities.

Prior to joining government, Mr. Armstrong worked four years as a reporter, editor, and translator in Taiwan. He earned his B.S. in Linguistics and Spanish at Georgetown University in 1976. He is fluent in Spanish and Mandarin Chinese.

Insight on the News reported at the time that Armstrong was coordinating Bolton’s talking points for the speech in question—so I don’t understand why we are using a pseudonym.
The Insight... story is interesting because it suggests that Bolton was pushing for a very, very hawkish assessment on Cuba:

In his gagged statement, a copy of which was obtained by Insight, Bolton expresses “frustration” at the apparent unwillingness of U.S. intelligence agencies to disclose information about Cuba’s biological weapons which could include anthrax, smallpox and variants of encephalitis such as West Nile virus. Recent outbreaks of West Nile virus that have killed more than 30 Americans and infected another 675 have been traced to birds that may have been infected at Cuban bioweapons labs, according to defecting scientists who report Fidel Castro’s experiments using animals as carriers of weaponized germ agents.

Wow. Does that really imply that Bolton wanted to pin West Nile on Castro? Or, is Insight... just engaging in the old tactic of placing statements next to one another to imply a relationship?

Late Update: Let me be clear about this: Senators Kerry and Lugar said nothing new by mentioning Armstrong’s name.

  • The Washington Times-owned Insight on the News identified Armstrong as the NIO who was “coordinating” Bolton’s speech in September 2002.
  • The New York Times published a story about efforts by Otto Reich to pressure Armstrong in January 2003.
  • A Wall Street Journal opinion piece accused Armstrong of a “lackadaisical approach to a mounting body of disturbing evidence” about threats to the United States from Cuba and Venezuela in March 2003.
  • Salon mentioned Armstrong, again by name, as an analyst who had been smeared as ” somehow under the influence of the Cuban government” in January 2004.

Senator Lugar—according to my transcript—opened the hearing by announcing:

Now, staff has in fact interviewed Mr. Westerman; Carl Ford, who will be appearing before the committee, as I understand, tomorrow morning at our hearing at 9:30; Mr. Fred Flights (ph), the Bolton special assistant who might know something about this; Tom Fingar, the INR principal deputy assistant secretary at the time; Fulton Armstrong, national intelligence officer for Latin America at the NIC at the time; Stuart Cohen, Mr. Armstrong’s supervisor at the NIC at that time.

Later, Chris Dodd suggested there was something untoward about mentioning Armstrong’s name and everyone played along with the ridiculous “Mr. Smith” charade until Kerry read Armstrong’s name in a transcript.

Even later update: Anne Gearan, AP Diplomatic Writer, should be ashamed of this paragraph:

Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., both mentioned a name, Fulton Armstrong, that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

Other than the four that I cited, she means.

· Posted by Jeffrey Lewis · 11 April 05


140 posted on 04/11/2005 7:05:54 PM PDT by RonDog
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