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Mr. Gerstein, an independent consultant, was communications director for Joe Lieberman and a senior strategist for his presidential campaign.
1 posted on 04/11/2005 5:33:50 AM PDT by OESY
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Their first move usually is to deny that the culture has any influence on attitudes and behavior.

This is doublespeak by the Dems. If they really believed culture has no influence, then they should just surrender their control of the media and hollywood to us conservatives. And we all know that this won't happen. We know they'll fight to the death to maintain their grip on these institutions. It's just too bad for them that they're already begining to lose them.

2 posted on 04/11/2005 5:42:08 AM PDT by Vision Thing (The Surgeon General has determined that being Democrat is bad for your health.)
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Can we trade Chaffee for Lieberman?


3 posted on 04/11/2005 5:43:53 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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I live in a rather well-off part of Philadelphia and the elitism is thoroughly obnoxious here. Many liberals feel not only are they more enlightened and more intelligent than conservatives, but that there are no conservatives in their orbit! I'm sure most of them have never been anywhere near the heartland or the south. Well, maybe South Florida!

Perhaps that's why I prickle when some conservatives act like there are no worthy opinions other than their own or that intelligence is graced by God only on those who vote R.


4 posted on 04/11/2005 5:45:44 AM PDT by pa mom
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Your so-called "elites" are clueless purveyors of hatred.Your leadership is totally without an agenda. You stand for nihlism and little else.
This leading female presidential candidate is a total comic book figure with no hope whatsoever of obtaining office. The "chickens will soon come home to roost" on her and on you.
Abandon hope all ye who enter here. All hope is lost.


5 posted on 04/11/2005 5:48:53 AM PDT by CBart95
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bump


6 posted on 04/11/2005 6:09:24 AM PDT by lowbridge
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-In the view of Mr. Rich and his acolytes, freedom in our culture has been "under attack" ever since 9/11.-

It's not freedom we have a problem with. It's insanity we have a problem with.

The trouble with the left is that they have no conceptual regard for consequences; their ideas are shallow, built on shaky foundations, then after they've done their damage, they whine about the consequences.


8 posted on 04/11/2005 6:31:28 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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Anybody got a WSJ username/password you would care to share?


9 posted on 04/11/2005 6:34:52 AM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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loopy linguists from Berkeley like George Lakoff

Don't forget loopy ones not from Berkeley like our friend Noam.

13 posted on 04/11/2005 6:49:09 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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"We don't hesitate to judge people's beliefs, but we blanch at judging their behavior."

Terrific insight.
14 posted on 04/11/2005 6:49:57 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool ("Man's character is his destiny" - Heracleitus)
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Forgets to mention why the democrats are participating in a culture 'war':

In 1965 Medicare and Medicaid were established. Both contained provisions for mental health treatment, but care furnished in state hospitals was explicitly not covered and mentally ill people under the age of sixty-five were ineligible for Medicaid benefits. These provisions resulted in the transfer of large numbers of the elderly mentally ill from state hospitals to nursing homes. In the late 1960's-1970's state and federal courts ruled that the mentally ill had the legal right to refuse treatment and could not be involuntarily committed to mental institutions unless they posed a clear and present danger to themselves or others.

Ergo range fed democrats.

16 posted on 04/11/2005 6:52:47 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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and leaves the impression that we are the party of "anything goes."...

The IMPRESSION????? There is no "impression" that is indeed what the Democratic party has become. Sexual Deviants want the state to give them access to children... Hey, no problem... Sexual Predators in the Boy Scouts? Absolutely... Mentally Ill folks with chronic and untreatable illnesses... Nope can't keep them in instutitions... put them on the streets. Think adults should be able to have sex with children.. hey sure, why not... after all its consentual. Terrorists aren't the real enemy... its GWB who's a Nazi... Want to quietly enjoy your property... Forget it... gotta pander to ELF and ALF... Want to control your retirment funding? NO flipping way.... Want to get your kids out of the failing public school system... Not without us penalizing the hell out of you you won't....

Democrats are a joke.. Jefferson would be spinning in his grave if he saw what his party has become.

Democrats are unable of telling right from wrong, and even when they can figure out something is right or wrong, find themselves unable to condemn it, because the wrong activities are activities being engaged in by one or more of their subculture activist groups that they rely on heavily for votes and campaign cash.

17 posted on 04/11/2005 6:54:49 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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leaves the impression that we are the party of "anything goes."...

Partial birth abortion...homosexual marriage...teaching anal sex to elementary schoolchildren...calling 9/11 victims "eichmanns"...killing innocent citizens by dehydration...censoring religious speech in the public square...providing internet porn in public libraries...yeah, I'd say that impression is pretty accurate.

18 posted on 04/11/2005 6:55:30 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The Democrats DO have an aversion to making moral judgments - unless its of conservatives. They couldn't find anything wrong with Clinton's sleaze and defended him to the hilt. They just don't connect with people's deepest values.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
19 posted on 04/11/2005 6:57:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Read the article. An amazing ride. Starts off boosting civil values, winds glorifying Hillary Clinton. Excuse me while I staunch this nose bleed.


26 posted on 04/11/2005 8:19:03 AM PDT by Calusa (it’s a mere fig leaf of fairness.)
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The left is not only winning the culture war, they've routed their opponents. This isn't surprising since they control the media that is the chief transmission belt of "culture".

But it also flows from a profound aversion to making moral judgments.

What planet is this person on? The purveyors of PC averse to moral judgments? What looks like anarchy isn't anarchy at all, but a carefully honed and guided weapon, aimed at the enemies of the liberal establishment. The left supports anything that is culturally corrosive of the old order.

37 posted on 04/11/2005 10:38:03 AM PDT by jordan8
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Gerstein says,
the reality is that it is those who cry "Censorship!" the loudest who are the ones trying to stifle speech and force their moral world-view on others. That may seem counterintuitive, but think about it. What is at issue is not the right to express oneself politically or artistically, or to consume controversial works in one's own home. It's the cultural environment we all share, what gets said and done in the public square for all to hear and see, and whether that common space should be governed by some social (not legal) norms and standards.
Gerstein then says,
How could that not be an appropriate subject for public debate in a democracy, particularly one as committed to free speech as ours?
I would like to add to this article. There is one case I know of where the public debate has ended but a major national organization refuses to follow the law, neither the Children's Internet Protection Act [CIPA] nor the US Supreme Court case of US v. American Library Association [ALA] that found CIPA to be constitutional.

What happens when a major organization defies the law and children likely continue to be raped and molested thereby? So far, nothing happens. But my citizens group plans to raise awareness of this defiance so less children will be raped and molested or assaulted at the law-defying hands of this organization.

The ALA says, openly on its web site likely because they know no one will lift a hand to stop their defiance of the law,
Despite the 2003 U.S. Supreme Court ruling on the Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA), which permits the government to require libraries that receive certain kinds of federal funding to install filters, ALA policy is unchanged: ALA does not recommend the use in libraries of filtering technology that blocks constitutionally protected information. .... Fact: The association does not endorse the use of filtering technology in public institutions, such as libraries, because it blocks legal information to which users are entitled under the Constitution.
http://www.ala.org/ala/pio/factsheets/librariesinternet.htm

I would like someone to consider what Gerstein has said, consider what I have just said about the ALA, then take action to stop the ALA from defying the law.

In our efforts to do this, the library defenders have attacked us as Taliban and worse, just as Mr. Gerstein has described in his excellent article. But they need to read his article carefully.
Not all parents who are concerned about the avalanche of crud crushing their children every day are obsessed with SpongeBob's sexual orientation. Nor are they seeking to shred the First Amendment. Most are just looking for a little cooperation from the captains of culture to make the hard job of raising children in a fully-wired universe a little easier.
Well is asking the American Library Association for a little cooperation in complying with the law of the land so more children are not raped and molested too much to ask?

Please visit our web site at http://www.plan2succeed.org/. Thank you.
39 posted on 04/11/2005 8:25:21 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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