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France Detects a Cultural Threat in Google
New York Times ^ | April 11, 2005 | Alan Riding

Posted on 04/11/2005 4:29:23 AM PDT by infocats

PARIS, April 9 - As president of the French National Library, Jean-Noël Jeanneney has good reason to feel safe from the frequent incursions of American popular culture into contemporary French life. With its collection of 13 million books, the library is a reassuring symbol of the durability of French literature and thought.

Yet Mr. Jeanneney is not one to lower his guard. He grew alarmed last December when he read that Google planned to scan 15 million English-language books and make them available as digital files on the Web. In his view, the move would further strengthen American power to set a global cultural agenda.

"I am not anti-American, far from it," Mr. Jeanneney, 62, said in an interview in his office in the library's new headquarters overlooking the Seine river. "But what I don't want is everything reflected in an American mirror. When it comes to presenting digitized books on the Web, we want to make our choice with our own criteria."

So, when Google's initial announcement went unnoticed here, Mr. Jeanneney raised his voice. In a Jan. 23 article in the newspaper, Le Monde, entitled "When Google Challenges Europe," he warned of "the risk of a crushing domination by America in the definition of the idea that future generations will have of the world."

Europe, he said, should counterattack by converting its own books into digital files and by controlling the page rankings of responses to searches. His one-man campaign bore fruit. At a meeting on March 16, President Jacques Chirac of France asked Mr. Jeanneney and the culture minister, Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres, to study how French and European library collections could be rapidly made available on the Web.

But where there is a will, is there a way?

Mr. Jeanneney is the first to acknowledge that he has a clearer idea of where he wants to go than how he will get there. On the technology required, for instance, he said that Europe had the choice of trying to develop its own search engine or of reaching agreement with Google, the world's most popular Internet search service, or perhaps with other Internet search providers, like Amazon.com, Microsoft and Yahoo.

Money, too, is a variable. Newly rich from its stock offering last summer, Google expects to spend $150 million to $200 million over a decade to digitize 15 million books from the collections of Harvard, Stanford, the University of Michigan, Oxford University and the New York Public Library.

In contrast, the French National Library's current book scanning program is modest. With an annual budget of only $1.35 million, it has so far placed online some 80,000 books and 70,000 drawings and will soon add part of its collection of 19th-century newspapers.

"Given what's at stake, $200 million is very little money," Mr. Jeanneney said of Google's planned investment in its program, known as Google Print.

Specifically, he fears that Google's version of the universal library will place interpretation of French and other Continental European literature, history, philosophy and even politics in American hands. This, he says, represents a greater peril than, say, American movies, television or popular music.

Google says his fears are unfounded. It notes that, as with Google, page rankings on Google Print will be defined by public demand and not by political, cultural or monetary variables. Further, according to Nikesh Arora, vice president for European operations for Google, the company fully supports all moves to make information and books available on the Web in all languages.

"Our intent is in no way to impose one culture or another," Mr. Arora said in a telephone interview from London. "Our intent is to offer the information responding to the priorities of users. And we are willing to support others, either as an active partner or with technical support. We are supportive of the French National Library and are ready to do anything to facilitate development of its expertise."

Still, it is no coincidence that concern about Google Print is being expressed first in France. It has often tried to persuade the rest of Europe to close ranks against what it calls Anglo-Saxon culture. And with digitized books, Mr. Jeanneney argued, "European ranking should reflect a European vision of history and culture."

But which Europe? That of the French, German and Spanish languages? That of the 25 members of the European Union? More crucially, will European governments or the public have the power to define the books and criteria used in response to search requests?

Even with questions unanswered, however, President Chirac now seems bent on promoting a European parallel to Google Print. And if the rest of Europe does not echo his call, France may well go it alone. After all, no one cares more about French culture than France. And thanks to Google, it seems, Mr. Jeanneney has spawned a new national cause.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Technical
KEYWORDS: crybabies; eurotrash; frogs; globalism; google; idiots; indexing; libraryofcongress; oldeurope; searchengine; sorelosers
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1 posted on 04/11/2005 4:29:24 AM PDT by infocats
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 04/11/2005 4:33:21 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (gei wo ziyou, haishi gei wo si wan! (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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Internet Search Engine = Cultural Threat.
Unchecked Muslim Immigration = Everything Just Honkey Dorey.

Ahh, French logic.
3 posted on 04/11/2005 4:35:39 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html


4 posted on 04/11/2005 4:35:55 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Why do fools fall in love?)
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He grew alarmed last December when he read that Google planned to scan 15 million English-language books and make them available as digital files on the Web. In his view, the move would further strengthen American power to set a global cultural agenda.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps it's because people everywhere like the American Cultural Agenda, even if they can't always admit it?

5 posted on 04/11/2005 4:37:19 AM PDT by infocats
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"In contrast, the French National Library's current book scanning program is modest. With an annual budget of only $1.35 million, it has so far placed online some 80,000 books and 70,000 drawings..."

Yeah, it's prolly PDF, too.

"...and will soon add part of its collection of 19th-century newspapers."

French newspapers! Take zat, Americains!


6 posted on 04/11/2005 4:37:28 AM PDT by cloud8 (I don’t do carrots. --John Bolton)
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To: infocats

I know. They can build another Maginot Line to keep American culture out!


7 posted on 04/11/2005 4:37:54 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Did you mean: french military defeats

Now, that is just too funny. How did you stumble across that link?

8 posted on 04/11/2005 4:40:19 AM PDT by infocats
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Aim a BB gun at them and they'll capitulate. No worries.


9 posted on 04/11/2005 4:41:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

A breath of fresh air is a threat to French culture.
10 posted on 04/11/2005 4:41:37 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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Those fifteen million books come from US colleges. What's the frog worried about?


11 posted on 04/11/2005 4:42:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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I know. They can build another Maginot Line to keep American culture out!

Nobody ever said that when the chips were down, the French couldn't be pragmatic.

12 posted on 04/11/2005 4:42:48 AM PDT by infocats
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To: infocats

Simple reality is a threat to French culture.


13 posted on 04/11/2005 4:43:44 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Everything that I've written on it for the past two years is GONE!)
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To: infocats

"Frogs go freaky-deaky, film at 11."


14 posted on 04/11/2005 4:43:49 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: infocats

Someone on FR posted it a good while back. I saved it.


15 posted on 04/11/2005 4:43:50 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Why do fools fall in love?)
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Yet Mr. Jeanneney is not one to lower his guard. He grew alarmed last December when he read that Google planned to scan 15 million English-language books and make them available as digital files on the Web. In his view, the move would further strengthen American power to set a global cultural agenda.

Hate to tell the French this, but English is a European language, America just borrowed it.

16 posted on 04/11/2005 4:44:06 AM PDT by Always Right
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Still, it is no coincidence that concern about Google Print is being expressed first in France. It has often tried to persuade the rest of Europe to close ranks against what it calls Anglo-Saxon culture.

And this is why I can't believe that Great Britain ever agreed to be part of the EU. The best thing that could ever happen to the EU is for France to actually pull out.
17 posted on 04/11/2005 4:48:25 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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Ironic isn't it?


18 posted on 04/11/2005 4:48:45 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: infocats
"...he has a clearer idea of where he wants to go than how he will get there."

This describes every pseudo-intellectual elitist liberal I've ever known.

19 posted on 04/11/2005 4:49:48 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Internet Search Engine = Cultural Threat.

Unchecked Muslim Immigration = Everything Just Honkey Dorey.

Ahh, French logic.

Touché. It's hard to figure out why the French would get their panties in a wad over this.

20 posted on 04/11/2005 4:50:51 AM PDT by infocats
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