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Drivers quick with an excuse (traffic tickets)
Jackson Citizen Patriot ^ | 4-10-05 | Larry O'Connor

Posted on 04/10/2005 8:43:30 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Drivers quick with an excuse
Sunday, April 10, 2005
By Larry O'Connor

When confronted by a traffic cop, motorists will say the darnedest things to dismiss their misdeeds.

Last year, police agencies in Jackson County doled out 47,005 tickets. In return, officers writing those dreaded citations heard at least that many excuses.

Few are original and even fewer are legitimate, officers say.

"Only in about 2 percent of the cases will they tell you the truth," said state Trooper Dave Clark, a 16-year road patrol veteran.

At least in one instance, the oft-repeated claim of urgently needing to go to the bathroom was no snow job.

About 21/2 years ago, sheriff's Deputy Dan Deering stopped a driver who was zipping down U.S. 127 well over the posted 55 mph limit.

The driver claimed she had to go to the bathroom.

To flush away doubt, she bolted past the deputy, ran into the adjacent woods and proceeded to relieve herself, Deering said. In the passenger seat, her husband sat dumbfounded.

"I handed him the ticket," said Deering, a seven-year road patrol veteran.

Another speeding driver claimed to be on his way to Foote Hospital to deliver vital organs for transplant surgery.

With no heart or kidney in the front seat, Jackson police Officer Chuck Brant was somewhat dubious and ticketed the driver. Another driver later offered the same excuse but at least produced a bag of blood products.

"I let him go," said Brant, the city's top traffic enforcement cop.

For the ticket writer, part of the fun is poking holes in the concocted claims.

"I put (the excuses) into the top of the funnel and keep pushing them down with questions," Deering said. "Pretty soon the funnel is upside down."


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To: Fresh Wind

In my particular car, it was a bad resistor on the backside of the instrument cluster.
Set the buzzer off, and the car wouldn't start without teh resister.
*grr*

I don't have teh car anymore, but if I ever have that jhappen again, I know what to do.
KILL the BUZZER!
;-)


61 posted on 04/10/2005 9:57:26 AM PDT by Darksheare (#####This tagline has been viciously run down to prevent it's escape. It has tire marks on it. #####)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Erring on the side of caution would be for the officer to write the ticket. If the driver really does know the CO, the CO can always 'fix' or expunge the ticket.

While I don't think the original idea will really work - especially since its now well known and overused - aren't officers unable to "fix" tickets?

If I recall correctly, once a ticket is written in the book, only the court can dispose of it. I think this is the result of ticket fixing scandals in many cities.

Maybe someone in law enforcement could chime in.

62 posted on 04/10/2005 9:58:25 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Lawyers are so full of .... themselves


63 posted on 04/10/2005 10:00:09 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: AntiGuv
I just told the cop it was such a gorgeous day I didn't really care. :)

There is a county road one mile south of my house where the Sheriff sets up his radar only on sunny, warm, and otherwise pleasant days. Two cars are always busy writting tickets.

64 posted on 04/10/2005 10:01:39 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Darksheare

It's not always that easy. I pulled the seat belt buzzer in another car and lost the interior lights. The bastards wired the light circuit through the buzzer. I mentioned this to the dearler (under warranty) and apparently they knew exactly what to do (they put in a jumper) and didn't charge me.


65 posted on 04/10/2005 10:03:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Dan from Michigan

Okay....I had to get input from my traffic cop son on this...He says there's no particular type of vehicle he pulls over; just whoever comes up on his radar gun. I asked him about pulling over good looking women, as my daughter seems to get her share of tickets. He said, nope, it's illegal....That's my boy...

He said the most common excuse is "late for Dr's. appt."

The best one he's heard personally was a woman that made an illegal u-turn....said she had to hurry and get home and pump her breasts; they were "about ready to explode." I guess he believed her, didn't examine her......

This is the kid that when 4 mons. old, I nursed while driving, so he gave her a break. LOL


66 posted on 04/10/2005 10:03:24 AM PDT by Fam4Bush (If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do well matters very much - JKO)
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To: Dan from Michigan
My best:

Officer: "Where's the fire?"

I told him, opened the trunk, and showed him my turnout gear. No ticket.

67 posted on 04/10/2005 10:04:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Yeah, they do that once in awhile.
Transmission controller module in one car, I forget which, had the airconditioning wired through it.
Weird and annoying with that car.

On another car, the stereo is wiredthrough the AC.
*unnngh*

Good to hear that they didn't charge you.


68 posted on 04/10/2005 10:06:03 AM PDT by Darksheare (#####This tagline has been viciously run down to prevent it's escape. It has tire marks on it. #####)
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To: Balding_Eagle; All
the Sheriff sets up his radar only on sunny, warm, and otherwise pleasant days

Has anyone ever gotten a ticket on a cold, miserable, rainy day (unless, or course, there was an accident involved)?

69 posted on 04/10/2005 10:06:58 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Dan from Michigan
The speed limits posted are nearly impossible to adhere to. Just try driving the posted speed limit on a nice sunny day and see how soon you are tailgated and/or given the finger.

Therefore, it is all about revenue generation. Whenever a town or municipality is inclined to (which is often), they can post their cops to speed traps and write tickets at will.

It's unfair but unfortunately it will never change because too many nannies think that these speed limits are for "public safety."

70 posted on 04/10/2005 10:07:33 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Your Tag is the best advice so true and brillant...

(I need to get some turnout gear)


71 posted on 04/10/2005 10:08:27 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: wyattearp
And people wonder why I don't have much respect for cops?

One week after getting my license, I was pulled over on a Friday night while taking some friends home from work. We worked at Long John Silver, were still wearing uniforms and REEKED of fish and grease. The cop asked 50 questions about whose car it was, where we were going, where we had been, had we been drinking, etc.

I was scared to death! Finally, he says that my tags are expired, but that he isn't going to give me a ticket THIS TIME.

Damn good thing, since the tags weren't expired at all. I guess 3 teenagers driving around a subdivision at 1:00am on a Friday night was too much to resist.

72 posted on 04/10/2005 10:08:39 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Altamira

Good point. Here in Tucson, the cops sit right outside the spot where a new speed sign is posted, hoping to bust people who speed up prematurely. But they wouldn't lift a finger to go after the perps who stole my son's wallet and ran up two thousand dollars in bills. We even had them on a store camera buying things. Didn't matter. They gotta write those tickets. They busted my wife for three miles otl in a 25 zone. She drives a lot slower than I do.

Anybody remember the tyranny of the 55 mile an hour limit which gauged us for years. But you got soccer moms and liberals and children's advocates, most of whom drive like maniacs, all over it if you ever try to get speed limit changes officially.


73 posted on 04/10/2005 10:11:16 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: JeffAtlanta

I know that tickets in Illinois can be fixed. I've had a few fixed myself as recently as 2003.


74 posted on 04/10/2005 10:15:33 AM PDT by flada
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To: Dan from Michigan

I've only gotten one speeding ticket in my life. I'd like to say that it's because I'm a silver tongued devil, but it's more accurate to say it's because I'm boring.

The one I did get, I supposed I deserved. I'd just come off a six-month tour in Western Ontario where the speed limit was set by the rear bumper on the car in front of you of your common sense on open roads. I had developed quite a lead foot. Back home, I picked up speed down a hill to about 45 mph just as the speed limit went from 35 to 25, classic speed trap country.

As the female officer approached I recognized her as the sister of my next door neighbor. Effecting my best Cockney accent I said, "You got me copper, it's a clean nim." Maybe, I should have asked about her nephew.


75 posted on 04/10/2005 10:19:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: cripplecreek
Last one i got was for 5 over in a school zone. (It was a speed trap) I decided to fight it, and went to court. (One person running radar, 7 others writing out the tickets)

The court clerk asked, when I went to court, if I was pleading guilty. I told her no. So, I went before the assistant DA.

The DA threw it out, sayingI shouldn't have even been ticketed.

I almost got caught in one two weeks ago. The members of Memphis' finest couldn't decide if I was speeding or not. ('nuther speedtrap) They did get the person who blew past me (roughhly 15 over in a residential area.)

If there was a way for civil disobedience that wasn't so expensive, I'd do it.

76 posted on 04/10/2005 10:19:43 AM PDT by Maigrey (Prayer Warriors for Malachi Whitlock http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1356532/posts)
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To: Loud Mime
If you admit you know that you were breaking the law, you will be ticketed. That's why they ask you.

Exactly. Cops are collecting evidence when they pull you over and not just looking to have a friendly conservation. A person is just admitting guilt when they tell the officer that they were speeding - the cop will bring up that fact if the person tries to fight it. Some people think that throwing yourself to the mercy of the cop is going to somehow help - never does.

The best strategy is to be polite and as low profile as possible when pulled over. DO NOT ADMIT GUILT. Then if the person does try to fight it in court, you at least have a leg to stand on.

I've been pretty successful in going to court, pleading not-guilty, and having the charge dismissed since the cop didn't show up. Even if the cop does show up, the judge usually reduces the speed or has me pay the full fine but eliminates the speeding violation which is great for insurance reasons. If a person is belligerent or yells "I'm going to fight this! I'm going to see you in court! What's your name and badge number?" during the traffic stop, the cop is certainly going to show up at court and the judge probably won't be as lenient.

In Cobb County (an Atlanta suburb), the court date is actually just an arraignment and then a second court date is set to try to case if the defendant pleads not-guilty. Hoping the cop won't show up doesn't work very well in this type of set up.

77 posted on 04/10/2005 10:21:33 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Wingy
47,000 tickets in one county
at least 20 counties per state
over 47 million tickets per year

They seem to have enough manpower to distribute tickets, yet law enforcement has the balls to claim they don't have the manpower to find, let alone deport, the over 12 million illegals in the US.

I'm just asking that they deport about 50 thousand per state per year... or about 1,000-2,000 per county.

78 posted on 04/10/2005 10:21:51 AM PDT by sten
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To: Deb8
I proved that the bus driver was insane and won the case.

That sounds like a nightmare. Could you share some details?

79 posted on 04/10/2005 10:24:12 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: SedVictaCatoni

What would that be? Is saying you're an attorney actually practicing law?


80 posted on 04/10/2005 10:29:55 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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