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Scientists shun Kansas evolution hearing
Washington Times (via India) ^ | 08 April 2005 | Staff

Posted on 04/10/2005 3:53:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

A pro-evolution group has organized what appears to be a successful boycott of Kansas hearings on intelligent design.

Alexa Posny, a deputy commissioner with the state department of education, told the Kansas City Star that only one person has agreed to testify on the pro-evolution side for the hearings scheduled for May.

"We have contacted scientists from all over the world," Posny said. "There isn't anywhere else we can go."

Harry McDonald, head of Kansas Citizens for Science, charged that the hearings, called by a conservative majority on the state board of education, have a pre-ordained outcome.He said that testifying would only make intelligent design appear legitimate.

"Intelligent design is not going to get its forum, at least not one in which they can say that scientists participated," he said.

Backers of intelligent design, the claim that a supreme being guided evolution, say it is a theory with scientific backing. Opponents believe it is an attempt to smuggle religion into public education.


We can't post complete articles from the Washington Times, so I got this copy from a paper in India. If you want to see the article in the Washington Times (it's identical to what I posted) it's here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: crevolist; education; kansas; scienceeducation
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To: VadeRetro
also in line with the molecular evidence?

Where is the anthracothere molecular evidence?

321 posted on 04/11/2005 6:28:08 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: sirchtruth
Wait...Just because I don't show you the facts I have gathered doesn't mean I don't have any.

So why are you too much of a coward to present them?
322 posted on 04/11/2005 6:30:28 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior
Now how do I get it out

There is no getting it out!

Junior is a mad evil genius of some kind.

Ill never be able to listen to MTAF with a straight face again.

323 posted on 04/11/2005 6:30:28 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: mlc9852
The thing about the evolution/creationism debate is that we won't know for sure until we're dead. Doesn't seem fair, does it?

How can we know when we're dead? When we die, all action potentials in our head cease. No action potentials, no consciousness. No consciousness, no "knowing" anything.
324 posted on 04/11/2005 6:31:57 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: RightWingNilla
Youve driven me mad with this Junior!!

I'm sorry. On the other hand, if you got to have an earworm, it might as well be a Boston hit.

325 posted on 04/11/2005 6:32:04 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: California Patriot
As in most controversies, or perhaps all controversies, the liberal-left Establishment simply isn't interested in dialogue.

What about conservatives who actually care about science? Or are you arrogantly asserting that all who accept evolution are on the liberal-left?
327 posted on 04/11/2005 6:33:12 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: VadeRetro
You must be a despicable little two-legged weasel in real life.

How human of you. Ad Hominem so early in a discussion. What dearth of argument and mental acuity you have.

328 posted on 04/11/2005 6:34:35 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: RightWingNilla
Junior is a mad evil genius of some kind.

Mad and evil, at least.

329 posted on 04/11/2005 6:37:26 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior
Paradigm shift my wayyyyyy!

Youre a genius man!

330 posted on 04/11/2005 6:37:36 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: VadeRetro
That is the difference in the two charts, whether H comes from the C line or the A line

As far as I know, hippos have always been artiodactyls, it has been whales that were the mystery. We have all of their skeleton available to judge that.

331 posted on 04/11/2005 6:37:50 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: RightWingNilla

[blushing]


332 posted on 04/11/2005 6:40:02 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: AndrewC

We have all of their skeleton available to judge that.



Hippo skeletons for the benefit of the name callers


333 posted on 04/11/2005 6:40:03 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: PatrickHenry

Maybe Kansas can legislate that pi is 3 like they did in 1897 in Indiana.


334 posted on 04/11/2005 6:41:49 PM PDT by free_european (Selbst in die Unterwelt dringt durch Spalten Licht)
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To: MacDorcha
"This fool [Copernicus] wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy; but sacred scripture tells us that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth."

- Martin Luther

335 posted on 04/11/2005 6:49:37 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: AndrewC

"Americans do not believe that humans evolved,"
"the number considering both groups was 55% for no evolution."

What a great way to solve all scientific controversies - poll the public. They obviously know the truth.

As an example: In 1384 97% of people polled believed Earth was flat (the other 3% didn't know what "Earth" was.) And because of that poll the Earth became flat.


336 posted on 04/11/2005 6:59:02 PM PDT by BootsOnTheGround (A free America is the World's last hope.)
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To: VadeRetro
Not just every human. Earthworms and puppy dogs! Kittens! Every baby robin and bunny rabbit will suffer and die for that one incident of human misconduct.

Don't forget the vitamin C gene mutation!

It broke only in the great apes though...

337 posted on 04/11/2005 6:59:17 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Dimensio

What if you're wrong?


338 posted on 04/11/2005 6:59:23 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: PatrickHenry

It seems many of you are absolutely convinced that evolution explains the origin of life. So... If you have empirical evidence of macro-evolution, you may be $250,000 richer...

http://www.drdino.com:8080/Ministry/250k/index.jsp


339 posted on 04/11/2005 7:02:32 PM PDT by dmanLA
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To: RightWingNilla
It broke only in the great apes though...

They were related to Adam and Eve and deserved the extra punishment.

340 posted on 04/11/2005 7:03:59 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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