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Manufacturing group assails U.S. trade policy
thestate.com ^ | Apr. 08, 2005 | GRANT JACKSON

Posted on 04/10/2005 12:01:11 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

U.S. trade policy has become foreign policy and has left the United States on the precipice of economic ruin.

That was the message Thursday of a delegation from the American Manufacturing Trade Coalition.

The group, led by Spartanburg textile magnate Roger Milliken, met with editors of The State over concerns about U.S. trade with China and an upcoming congressional vote on the Central American Free Trade Agreement, which would reduce trade barriers in the Dominican Republic and elsewhere.

“The CAFTA vote is a critical vote for the future or our country,” said Milliken, who helped found the lobbying organization two years ago.

It is time for the country to say no more NAFTAs, Milliken said, referring to a similar 1990s agreement with Mexico and Canada.

NAFTA and other trade agreements have led to a massive loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs and increased trade deficits, the coalition says.

The coalition is proposing that the United States place a moratorium on proposed trade agreements and begin a new debate that would lead to fair trade policies.

Others say free-trade deals, while painful, ultimately build stronger economies.

The United States has let foreign policy interests overshadow fair trade — especially in China, said Pat Choate, an economist and consultant to Milliken and the 1996 vice presidential running mate of Ross Perot.

The Chinese, he said, are not at fault. They are merely using the U.S. failure to enforce trade agreements to their advantage.

But as the Chinese and others take advantage of the United States, “we find ourselves in a position where more than half the goods consumed in the U.S. are coming in from abroad,” Choate said.

The U.S. trade deficit last year was $616 billion, and Choate said he believes it will go to $700 billion this year. That kind of deficit cannot be sustained, he said.

The United States has refused to use the tools of the World Trade Organization to bring China and other nations into line, said Augustine Tantillo, the coalition’s executive director

With fair trade policies, the coalition believes that U.S. manufacturers could again compete.

“If we had a decent shake in trade policy, I know we would do well,” said James Copland, chairman of Copland Fabrics in Burlington, N.C.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: china; freetrade; machining; manufacturing; nafta; textiles; toolanddie; tooling; trade; wto
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The United States has refused to use the tools of the World Trade Organization to bring China and other nations into line
1 posted on 04/10/2005 12:01:11 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Last Dakotan; Moonman62; JoeSixPack1; Cboldt; The Invisible Hand

Tool and die ping!


2 posted on 04/10/2005 12:06:19 AM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

"But as the Chinese and others take advantage of the United States, “we find ourselves in a position where more than half the goods consumed in the U.S. are coming in from abroad,” Choate said."

And don't forget the businesses in the US that work loopholes around import taxes by channeling goods through Canada. I know one of my former employers did this very thing.


3 posted on 04/10/2005 12:12:01 AM PDT by Renderofveils ("A is for all the tea they taxed, M is for the minutemen they shellaxed...")
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To: endthematrix

I misread this as a statement from the Association For Manufacturing Technology. http://www.amtonline.org


4 posted on 04/10/2005 12:21:06 AM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: endthematrix
U.S. trade policy has become foreign policy and has left the United States on the precipice of economic ruin.

Pretty serious doom & gloom opening sentence.

The bottom line is American craftsman can't compete on an hourly basis against communist slave labor. Nor should we. The backbone of the America manufacturing sector has been gov't contracts above private contracts. When gloom hits manufacturing it's because the gov't stopped buying. Well, we know that's false, and we're also at war, so where the hell did all the gov't contracts go?

2 Words - Lowest bidder.

5 posted on 04/10/2005 12:26:46 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: hedgetrimmer
The Chinese, he said, are not at fault. They are merely using the U.S. failure to enforce trade agreements to their advantage.

For example?
The cheap imports have hurt sales of my American made pianos badly.
Also, it's hard to sell a rebuild job when folks can buy a new piano imported piano, or a keyboard even, for less than rebuilding the old one.

My 25yo business is hurting, the times are changing, that's for sure.
I'd like to know what makes the US stronger by exporting our manufacturing jobs and also what these folk think needs to be "enforced".

6 posted on 04/10/2005 1:20:37 AM PDT by ThirstyMan (Why is it, all the dead vote for Democrats?)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I'm no expert on CAFTA, NAFTA but, it seems to me that if we do merge with Canada, Mexico and SA, we have no place to go but down. Since we are the richest country, we will have to give up alot of our wealth and standard of living in order to bring the 3rd world countries up. Eventually things will level out but, we will be a much poorer country because of what we have given up in order for the other countries to pump up their economy.
IMO, the only country that will lose is the US.
I may be wrong but like I said, I am not very knowledgeable in reference to NAFTA, CAFTA.


7 posted on 04/10/2005 1:50:56 AM PDT by SealSeven
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To: hedgetrimmer

All true .... fine post.


8 posted on 04/10/2005 1:55:07 AM PDT by dennisw ("Sursum corda")
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To: JoeSixPack1

Goverment procurement is now regulated by the globalist WTO. Under WTO treaties, a nation may not restrict it government procurement to its own nations citizens, or to its own nations producers even if they can provide more cheaply than foreign suppliers. Procurement is a significant part of the CAFTA treaty and the FTAA. Citizens, under "free trade" have lost their right to control their own government procurement.

An example of WTO clout is the fact that US sugar growers are forced to eat the cost of a significant chunk of their production because WTO agrements FORCE the US to import sugar causing an atificial OVERSUPPLY that is killing off our producers.

Also a lawsuit against the state of Massachusetts required them to purchase product from Burma(Myanmar) as part of their state procurement process. Burma of course, a totalitarian dictatorship is well know for its forced labor(slave) camps. But a country that rejected slavery over 150 ago (the US) under "free trade" rules is required to do business with a slave labor dictatorship.


9 posted on 04/10/2005 8:16:44 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: SealSeven
if we do merge with Canada, Mexico and SA, we have no place to go but down.

We WILL lose our wealth. We WON'T get it back because we will also lose the form of government-- the liberty, free enterprise, God given rights government-- to a corporatist/facist/socialist government where business and the government bureaucracy with input from non governmental organizations (called Civil Society by the UN)is allowed but CITIZENS have no voice.
10 posted on 04/10/2005 8:20:20 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: endthematrix
NAFTA, WTO etal, where sold to the American people as job and wealth generators for our country. At that they have been absolute failures. Cynically, I believe the reason for this is the necessity of having willing foreign parties to buy our government's debt outweighs any responsibility the politicians have towards the long term welfare of the US populace.

The concept of free trade between nations is not without it attractive qualities, however the theory has been destroyed in practice by Asian merchantilism.

11 posted on 04/10/2005 8:45:36 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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12 posted on 04/10/2005 4:16:11 PM PDT by Alia
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To: hedgetrimmer
The U.S. trade deficit last year was $616 billion, and Choate said he believes it will go to $700 billion this year.

A stronger US economy means higher trade deficits, because US citizens have more disposable income.

Others say free-trade deals, while painful, ultimately build stronger economies.

Yes.

Unions will scream "we can't compete with $x per hour labor" in other countries, but labor cost is only one factor in total manuafacturing costs. American workers are far more productive than workers in other countries.
13 posted on 04/10/2005 6:14:48 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Saved by zero.)
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To: hedgetrimmer


Thanks for the info. Why is our government doing this to us?
Its almost surreal-


14 posted on 04/10/2005 6:19:33 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: clyde asbury
"Industry Objectives for Hemispheric Integration"
Speech by Mr. Salazar Xirinachs, Minister of Foreign Trade of Costa Rica,
at the Institute of the Americas Conference, in Washington DC, on February 17, 1998.

…the Summit of the Americas provide nothing less than the comprehensive framework and organizing principles for the social, economic and political relations among the community of nations of the hemisphere in the XXI century. The FTAA is not just one more initiative among the 23 initiatives launched in the Summit of the Americas. It is the pillar, the foundation of the grand project of hemispheric integration contained in the Summit vision

When you say "free trade" build(s) stronger economies it is because this system is designed to build the economies of the "least developed countries" LCDs as the United Nations calls them. It is about wealth redistribution.

When the Summit "free traders" discusses "social, economic and political relations " they are talking about the transformation of our Constitutional Republican government into a type of corporatist fascism the United Nations calls "civil society". Are you ready to give up the American Constitution, God-given rights and the sovereignty of the individual over his own life for that?
15 posted on 04/10/2005 6:41:02 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: monkeywrench

Here's another one for you.


16 posted on 04/10/2005 6:41:40 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Alia; Willie Green

Alia,

All protectionist anti-trade pings need to be pre-cleared by Willie Green.

(It's sort of his own special turf!) :-)


17 posted on 04/10/2005 6:57:01 PM PDT by Huber (Conservatism - It's not just for breakfast anymore!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
.. this system is designed to build the economies of the [LDCs] ...

The free trade that I mean is not a system. It's a matter of simple economics.

The US Constitution is a wonderful document, but it doesn't describe this country - not currently. The federal government is far too large.

States' rights should prevail. Some of the states will be more protectionist than others. Those states' economies will also suffer the most in the long term. Historically, this has been proved time and time again.
18 posted on 04/10/2005 7:16:06 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Saved by zero.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Too late for a U-turn....


19 posted on 04/10/2005 7:18:00 PM PDT by traumer
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To: SealSeven

"Why is our government doing this to us? "

It's Money That Matters Lyrics /Randy Newman/
....
Sonny it's money that matters, hear what I say
It's money that matters in the USA
It's money that matters
Now you know that it's true
It's money that matters whatever you do


20 posted on 04/10/2005 7:29:34 PM PDT by traumer
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