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Rift emerges in GOP after Schiavo case
Boston Globe ^ | April 9, 2005 | Nina J. Easton

Posted on 04/09/2005 3:48:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Top conservative leaders gathered here a week after Terri Schiavo's death to plot a course of action against the nation's courts, but much of their anger was directed at leading Republicans, exposing an emerging crack between the party's leadership and core supporters on the right.

And yesterday they issued an ''action plan" to take their crusade for control of the nation's courts well beyond Senate debates over judicial nominees, pressing Congress to impeach judges and defund courts they consider ''activist" and to limit the jurisdiction of federal courts over some sensitive social matters -- a strategy opposed by many leading Senate Republicans.

''This is not a Democrat- Republican issue; it is a liberal-conservative issue," Rick Scarborough, a Baptist minister and chair of the Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration, sponsor of the gathering, said in an interview. ''It's about a temporal versus eternal value system. We are not going away."

In the charged battle over the future of the nation's courts, conservatives so far are outgunned financially. Last week, liberal groups mounted a multimillion-dollar advertising campaign designed to build support for the filibuster and thwart Senate confirmation of nominees they consider extremists who will pursue a ''radical agenda and favor corporate interests over our interests," as one MoveOn.org radio advertisement intoned.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: judges; judicialmurder; judiciary; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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I think instead of recriminations against Bush and Bush, who did everything they could, they should focus the anger against the real culprits: the judges who defied the law and the will of Congress.

We can't allow the liberals to win -- they are pulling out all the stops, because they know that the judiciary has become more powerful than Congress and the President, and they want to keep it that way.

1 posted on 04/09/2005 3:48:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Terri PING


2 posted on 04/09/2005 3:49:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

There is no rift.

This is just the Boston Globe desperation and wishful thinking.

The only division is in the democrat party. They were the only ones who were and ARE split.


3 posted on 04/09/2005 3:51:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: FairOpinion

I agree. Frist needs to have a fire lit under him, but it's much too soon to start getting angry at Bush.

But give it another month without any action, and I think Bush will deserve some heat, too.


4 posted on 04/09/2005 3:51:43 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: longtermmemmory

"There is no rift. "

Have you been reading the posts on the Terri threads?

There were quite a few passionate people here who wanted Terri dead.

I can understand those (myself included) who were passionate about keeping her alive and noticing the monstrous injustice that is being perpetrated, but I never could understand the passion of those who wanted her dead.


The Execution of Terri Schiavo

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=13926&catcode=13


5 posted on 04/09/2005 3:54:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Or, in other words ...

Democrats united behind the killing of Terri Schiavo

... but they would never write it that way.
6 posted on 04/09/2005 3:54:56 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: FairOpinion

Ok, I think the Bush boys should have done more, and acted sooner. That doesn't mean I'll vote for a Democrat. I doubt anyone who really values life would.


7 posted on 04/09/2005 3:56:23 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Cicero

I think we should put the blame where it really belongs. Micheal Shiavo. If that POS didn't want his wife, he should have given control to the parents. There is really no one else to blame, he had the "ace" up his sleeve by staying married to her, he could have just walked away.


8 posted on 04/09/2005 3:56:40 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Yes, but MS couldn't have finished killing her, without Judge Greer and the rest of the judiciary going along with it.

The law is supposed to be there to protect the innocent and those unable to protect themselves, instead of helping the murderers commit their crime "legally".

Also note, that Judge Greer didn't just "allow" MS to pull the tube, he specificaly ordered, then reemphasized that Terri be given NO food or water by any means.


9 posted on 04/09/2005 3:59:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: longtermmemmory
There is no rift. This is just the Boston Globe desperation and wishful thinking. The only division is in the democrat party. They were the only ones who were and ARE split.

Well said.

My first thought after seeing the source was, "Didn't I just read a post about the Boston Glob mis-reporting on the Big Dig?"

Facts are of no concern. It's the story that counts.

When one stops to look at the 'Rat party - really look and listen - the various splits / factions are obvious. And fun to watch.

LVM

10 posted on 04/09/2005 4:00:56 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: MizSterious

"Ok, I think the Bush boys should have done more, and acted sooner. That doesn't mean I'll vote for a Democrat."

I agree with both of your statements.

It's just that some people direct all their anger towards them, and nothing against the judges who are the real guilty people here.


11 posted on 04/09/2005 4:00:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

This article is a bunch of agenda-driven crap to rally the Left's troops. I would expect nothing less from the Boston Glob.


12 posted on 04/09/2005 4:02:38 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: FairOpinion

This is the leftists' Schadenfreude, and our Schadentraurigkeit.


13 posted on 04/09/2005 4:07:47 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (History remembers only what was, not what might have been.)
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To: longtermmemmory

This is just the Boston Globe desperation and wishful thinking.
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So typical of the MSM == they INVENT THE NEWS T-H-E-Y WANT TO HEAR.


14 posted on 04/09/2005 4:09:01 PM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: longtermmemmory

"There is no rift."

Nah, there will always be a bit of a rift between social conservatives and libertarian types. Unfortunately for the lefties, we're pretty good about working around this rift.


15 posted on 04/09/2005 4:10:55 PM PDT by New Orleans Slim
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To: FairOpinion

I have been reading the threads, but i take them with a grain of salt given the number of trolls because of the topic.

Terri is not going to cause a "split" because even after the death, republicans still agree on the same enemies.

Honest debate on FR is not equal to a "split" for the GOP. It is not like we are democrats or something.



16 posted on 04/09/2005 4:15:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: FairOpinion

Mae Magouirk safe for now. See Tekgnosis for further details.

Tell the Media to report the REAL Schiavo polls!

http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7351686&type=ME

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/4/emw226586.htm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/prweb/20050408/bs_prweb/prweb226586_3

My account, etc. of Terri Schindler's Funeral Mass:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com


17 posted on 04/09/2005 4:16:50 PM PDT by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: longtermmemmory
I guess the left are hoping they can find a wedge that'll get em out of the sand trap they've been in lately.


18 posted on 04/09/2005 4:20:16 PM PDT by Huck (Unauthorized mp3 file sharing is THEFT.)
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To: FairOpinion; All

And .. this is the second message I have seen today from the Boston Globe making comments about a fractured or divided republican party.

Perhaps it would help the GLOBE if they would turn around and look at the democrat party that is REALLY fracturing right down the middle.

On one side we have the Clinton cabal - in full swing to moderate the party's stands on everything from the war to abortion. It's not that they have changed their minds on these issues - quite the contrary - it's more about "what can we say to fool the public today".

On the other side we have the Kennedy/Kerry/Dean cabal - anti-war cabal. This is the group to which MoveOn has attached itself - and several people like Byrd have given them legitimacy. While Kennedy is supporting Kerry for the nomination (again), the MoveOn people want Dean. Dean has supposedly signed an agreement that he will not run in 2008 - but I hope nobody is holding their breath.

Either group is frightening .. but they must stick together or they cannot possibly win any elections. And .. with the defections from the blacks, Jewish and Hispanic camps, they might be in more trouble than they realize.

Hillary may do well with her NY senate seat - because NY is basically in her camp - but the rest of the country is fed up with NE liberals.

Somehow the Globe is only concerned with spreading the false stories that the republicans are in trouble - WE'RE NOT - WE'RE MORE UNITED THAN EVER BEFORE - AND THAT'S WHAT THE GLOBE HATES.

Don't fall for this stuff from Globe - they are WRONG!


19 posted on 04/09/2005 4:23:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: FairOpinion
Frist, a likely candidate for president in 2008, angered social conservatives last week when he said, ''I believe we have a fair and independent judiciary today" and held open the possibility of a compromise with Democrats over the filibuster. In an interview at the conference, Eagle Forum founder Phyllis Schlafly described Frist as a ''nice man," but warned that ''his fate hangs on whether he puts the judges through. If he doesn't, it's his last blast."

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Frist is kidding himself if he thinks he has a chance at being the Republican candidate in '08, and his above statement certainly didn't help his cause.

20 posted on 04/09/2005 4:24:40 PM PDT by trisham
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