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US unready for rising threat of 'moles'
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 4/8/05 | Faye Bowers

Posted on 04/08/2005 3:12:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 04/08/2005 3:12:49 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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2 posted on 04/08/2005 3:15:00 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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Wouldn't public executions of spies and moles solve this problem? When the enemy believes you will take extreme measures agains them they tend to go elsewhere.


3 posted on 04/08/2005 3:18:45 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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This is ridiculous, all the counter intelligence personnel need to be either kicked in the butt or fired now! All they can offer are excuses as to why they are failures and quoting that xCIA idiot Scheuer is no vote of confidence either! If they can't do it, why are they on the payroll!


4 posted on 04/08/2005 3:22:26 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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Who needs moles anymore? Just wait until the next Dem administration, and buy it.


5 posted on 04/08/2005 3:22:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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US unready for rising threat of 'moles' ......

Sure,.......

.....Well,.....THIS 'means' the end of the 'INS'.

:-)

6 posted on 04/08/2005 3:26:48 PM PDT by maestro
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Attention foreign countries: Recruit me with fabulous sums of money. Freepmail me with offers.


7 posted on 04/08/2005 3:30:59 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Americans condemn and deride people who uphold ethics, morals, and character and then wonder why we can't trust anyone.

One of the people I work with berated me for returning a wallet with $1400 in cash to the rightful owner. I mean he made an ASS out of me in front of my coworkers for being a Christian, a conservative, and for being a fool with morals. Less than a month after that he dropped a roll of bills with $225 in it.

In front of him and everyone in a meeting I asked him about the issue hypothetically and he told me I should keep the money. I asked him again if he was serious that I should use his ethics in this particular case instead of my ethics - which would mean the money would go back to the proper owner. He told me, bitterly, that I had my head up my a$$ if I didn't keep the money a "retarded idiot" lost.

I then said I'd be keeping the money since he insisted.

Then I told him that this was ethical as it was HIS money and I'd be considering it a gift since I had, after all, attempted to give it back.

He was passed over for a promotion that I got and he went off about it. The VP who made the decision told him the matter came down to one issue: Trust.

And the company can't trust my coworker.

It is no surprise to me that Mormons tend to dominate US security groups since they can be trusted above the general populace.


8 posted on 04/08/2005 3:36:10 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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The article read, "But in the US, people find it distasteful, even dishonorable, to spy on neighbors or to try to turn them into informants."

We as a people need to get over our sense of fair play in the big show of foreign affairs. When it comes to intelligence gathering, nice guys finish dead.


9 posted on 04/08/2005 3:37:40 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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It is no surprise to me that Mormons tend to dominate US security groups since they can be trusted above the general populace.

ROTFLOL

10 posted on 04/08/2005 3:38:32 PM PDT by maestro
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And the greedy fools keep hiring H1-Bs ...


11 posted on 04/08/2005 3:41:45 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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I'm not LDS, by the way. Just stating a statistical truism.


12 posted on 04/08/2005 3:46:32 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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"It is no surprise to me that Mormons tend to dominate US security groups since they can be trusted above the general populace."

Laugh all you want. Visit Fort Meade sometime and you'll stop laughing. I am NOT a Mormon and my comment is not a compliment to Mormons - it is a criticism of the rest of us.


13 posted on 04/08/2005 3:48:09 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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"When the enemy believes you will take extreme measures against them they tend to go elsewhere."

Hmmm...

The problem is that there is no "elsewhere"....

There is no other superpower to spy on...
Who would spy on Albania for nuclear technology ?

Then the public executions of foreign spies would not mean similar treatment for the less fortunate CIA agents?
14 posted on 04/08/2005 3:51:49 PM PDT by bozot
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Gosh, next thing you know some trusted former executive with the highest security clearances will be stealing sensitive handwritten notes from the national archives ostensibly to thwart investigations into the worst terrorist attack on US soil to date, and to absolve said person's cohorts from responsibility or complicity. Sounds to fanciful too contemplate.


15 posted on 04/08/2005 3:52:08 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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16 posted on 04/08/2005 3:54:00 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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I mean he made an ASS out of me in front of my coworkers . . .

If you ask me, Peter, he made an ass of himself. I love the karmic (can a conservative use that word, lol?) turnabout in your story. And congrats on the promotion!

17 posted on 04/08/2005 3:56:34 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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I think we already have a lot of moles sitting in congress: Most rats, and some republicans. It's insane.


18 posted on 04/08/2005 4:02:06 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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"...concern is surfacing about America's premier national-security agencies"

America's "premier" "intelligence" agencies don't know squat about squat, and are directed by politicians whose only concerns are political correctness and protecting illegal aliens' job prospects.

19 posted on 04/08/2005 4:02:52 PM PDT by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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" Who would spy on Albania for nuclear technology ?"

I see the Albanian intelligence ruse has worked. They are so crafty no one would suspect that it was THEY who actually controlled the Soviet Union and are responsible for the spread of Communism.


20 posted on 04/08/2005 4:03:01 PM PDT by dljordan
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