Posted on 04/08/2005 10:20:30 AM PDT by sergey1973
About 1,000 people gathered in the Catholic Virgin Mary’s Immaculate Conception Cathedral in Moscow to watch a live broadcast of the funeral of Pope John Paul II.
Not only Catholics, but people of other confessions visited the cathedral to commemorate the Pope. Some people came with their children and many visitors brought flowers.
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I'll join you in that prayer.
Or at least appreciate the two-lung symbolism.
Good answer. I'd rather say that the next Pope has a task of trying to establish relationship between Orthodox and Catholics as sister churches.
Some of it is in place. I believe the Catholics are instructed not to call the division "schism". The anathemata were mutually revoked a while ago. The Orthodox are welcome to our Communion and the Catholics are allowed Orthodox Communion when a Catholic Communion is not available.
I don't know if all of these steps have been reciprocated by the Orthodox Church.
I'm not sure whether Orthodox Church reciprocated. Probably some regional Churches did and some not. I'm a bit sympathetic outsider. My parents are not religious and neither am I. My mother was born into a nominally Orthodox Family, but she is not actively practicing Orthodoxy. My dad is of Russian/Ukrainian Jewish background and he is not practicing Judaism either.
Me and my parents appreciate the best that Christianity and Judaism brought to this world, but none of us are drawn into the strife between various denominations. As long as the basic morality and decency is observed, we respect everyone.
That is 1000 more than the number who were allowed to watch it in China!
Man can satisfy his duty to fellow men by following nearly any religion.
Faith, including what seems to an outsider as a theological minutae (see the Filioque controversy) matters to satisfy our duty to God. One among them is the duty of Christian witness. This is why, remembering our discussion of the treatment of heretics, religious wars can be just.
Having said that, we know that God will justify an honest seeker. It is not necessary to understand the Trinity in order to be saved; it is necessary to look for the truth and stick to what you find.
1965. One of the better results of Vatican II.
Ain't gonna happen. DREAM ON!
Roman Catholics are NOT allowed BY THE ORTHODOX CHURCH AND ITS CLERGY.... to take communion in ORTHODOX CHURCHES!!
That is the rule of the Orthodox Church. Period.
Baptists, Methodists and even Episcopal are not allowed either.
YOU MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH TO TAKE COMMUNION THERE.
ok?
The reason is that it their rule... no matter what the Roman Church says... Roman Catholics are not invited to take communion there.
I can settle for Orthodox and Catholic churches recognizing each other as sister churches and treating each other in this way.
"YOU MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH TO TAKE COMMUNION THERE."
I would like to look forward to the day when Catholics can be allowed to take communion in Orthodox Churches. If Catholics permitted Orthodox to take communion in Catholic churches (am I right, annalex ?), then I believe reciprocity is due. Catholics and Orthodox should go to each other churches freely and take part in all the religious rituals and ceremonies--that will be a real church sisterhood. At least that's how I see it should be. Again, I'm a sympathetic outsider, but maybe the outsiders view can be valuable sometimes.
The infallibility of the pope is a characteristic of the Church, not of the pope personally.
Namely: the Holy Spirit will not allow the Church to teach error.
The pope functions as chief teacher. Therefore he cannot proclaim a solemn dogma, intending it to be binding on the whole Church, if it is in error.
What would happen if a pope wanted to do just that: attempt to require the whole Church "under obedience" to accept a false dogma? I don't know. I suppose a timely coronary occlusion would settle the matter nicely.
BTW my husband is Russian Orthodox and I am Catholic. I love the Orthodox Church: its glorious liturgies, its profound spirituality, its devotion to the Theotokos and all the angels and saints, the good-will and piety which fills the hearts of so many honest believers.
I have always made it my rule never to speak ill of any person, place, thing, custom, idea or belief associated with Orthodoxy. I try to be pro-active in showing respect.
If you belong to Christ and I belong to Christ, then we belong to each other.
Pray for me, a poor specimen of a Christian,
Mrs. Don-o
You know, if you were a member of either Church, I think your opinions about how they treat each other would have more a little more "substance" .
I have close relatives VERY ACTIVE in both Churches. They do NOT see either Church "backing-down" on that issue of the Pope's infallibility.
One relative is highly involved in the Knights of Columbus and his brother is a highly recognised member of the Roman Catholic clergy. He has stated to me several times... Papal infallibity is the pin that holds the Pope's power in place during these modern and immoral times. And, I believe to Roman Catholics it is a very important doctrine.
To the Orthodox it is a false doctrine.
So, unless GOD wants all these people to change their minds... I am afraid it is not gonna happen... I mean total reconcilliation.
And, then there are all these Protestants who disagree with both Churches...
I do understand how important this is to your Church just as I realise what a problem doctrine is to other Churches... and NOT just the Orthodox. It is to the Baptist and other Protestant Churches well.
The way I see it, GOD allows all this differences of opinion for a reason... I do not know what the reason is... but, it must have some role in GOD'S scheme and plan of the way things will go.
That is why, I always say... to each his own in regard to the Christian faith.
If ALL just could learn to respect the differences, I believe they could indeed also FIND COMMON GROUND.
See what I mean?
You made an mistake. I am Baptist.
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