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Organic-Rich Soup-in-the-Ocean of Early Earth [Miller experiment revisited]
REDNOVA NEWS ^ | 08 April 2005 | Staff

Posted on 04/08/2005 7:39:14 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

A new University of Colorado at Boulder study indicates Earth in its infancy probably had substantial quantities of hydrogen in its atmosphere, a surprising finding that may alter the way many scientists think about how life began on the planet.

Published in the April 7 issue of Science Express, the online edition of Science Magazine, the study concludes traditional models estimating hydrogen escape from Earth's atmosphere several billions of years ago are flawed. The new study indicates up to 40 percent of the early atmosphere was hydrogen, implying a more favorable climate for the production of pre-biotic organic compounds like amino acids, and ultimately, life.

The paper was authored by doctoral student Feng Tian, Professor Owen Toon and Research Associate Alexander Pavlov of CU-Boulder's Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics with Hans De Sterk of the University of Waterloo. The study was supported by the NASA Institute of Astrobiology and NASA's Exobiology Program.

"I didn't expect this result when we began the study," said Tian, a doctoral student in CU-Boulder's Astrobiology Center at LASP and chief author of the paper. "If Earth's atmosphere was hydrogen-rich as we have shown, organic compounds could easily have been produced."

Scientists believe Earth was formed about 4.6 billion years ago, and geologic evidence indicates life may have begun on Earth roughly a billion years later.

"This study indicates that the carbon dioxide-rich, hydrogen-poor Mars and Venus-like model of Earth's early atmosphere that scientists have been working with for the last 25 years is incorrect," said Toon. In such atmospheres, organic molecules are not produced by photochemical reactions or electrical discharges.

Toon said the premise that early Earth had a CO2-dominated atmosphere long after its formation has caused many scientists to look for clues to the origin of life in hydrothermal vents in the sea, fresh-water hot springs or those delivered to Earth from space via meteorites or dust.

The team concluded that even if the atmospheric CO2 concentrations were large, the hydrogen concentrations would have been larger. "In that case, the production of organic compounds with the help of electrical discharge or photochemical reactions may have been efficient," said Toon.

Amino acids that likely formed from organic materials in the hydrogen-rich environment may have accumulated in the oceans or in bays, lakes and swamps, enhancing potential birthplaces for life, the team reported.

The new study indicates the escape of hydrogen from Earth's early atmosphere was probably two orders of magnitude slower than scientists previously believed, said Tian. The lower escape rate is based in part on the new estimates for past temperatures in the highest reaches of Earth's atmosphere some 5,000 miles in altitude where it meets the space environment.

While previous calculations assumed Earth's temperature at the top of the atmosphere to be well over 1,500 degrees F several billion years ago, the new mathematical models show temperatures would have been twice as cool back then. The new calculations involve supersonic flows of gas escaping from Earth's upper atmosphere as a planetary wind, according to the study.

"There seems to have been a blind assumption for years that atmospheric hydrogen was escaping from Earth three or four billion years ago as efficiently as it is today," said Pavlov. "We show the escape was limited considerably back then by low temperatures in the upper atmosphere and the supply of energy from the sun."

Despite somewhat higher ultraviolet radiation levels from the sun in Earth's infancy, the escape rate of hydrogen would have remained low, Tian said. The escaping hydrogen would have been balanced by hydrogen being vented by Earth's volcanoes several billion years ago, making it a major component of the atmosphere.

In 1953, University of Chicago graduate student Stanley Miller sent an electrical current through a chamber containing methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water, yielding amino acids, considered to be the building blocks of life. "I think this study makes the experiments by Miller and others relevant again," Toon said. "In this new scenario, organics can be produced efficiently in the early atmosphere, leading us back to the organic-rich soup-in-the-ocean concept."


Stanley Miller's classic "primordial soup" experimental setup,
with a simulated ocean, lightning and broth
of hydrogen, methane, ammonia and water.

In the new CU-Boulder scenario, it is a hydrogen and CO2-dominated atmosphere that leads to the production of organic molecules, not the methane and ammonia atmosphere used in Miller's experiment, Toon said.

Tian and other team members said the research effort will continue. The duration of the hydrogen-rich atmosphere on early Earth still is unknown, they said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; biogenesis; crevolist; earlyearth; millerexperiment; originoflife
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To: PatrickHenry

"No. It would mean that life is such an easy step for organic chemistry that mere humans in a lab could do it. This would suggest (not prove) that -- contrary to the claims of some theolgians -- such matters do not require, much less prove, the activities of a deity. "

I'll buy that. If it isn't engineered, and simple chemistry experiments can bring it about, it would suggest exactly what you said.


21 posted on 04/08/2005 8:12:56 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: MacDorcha

"Seems like a simple enough lab excercise to me"

The "Primordial Soup" is childs play by comparison to the synthesis of a cell membrane.


22 posted on 04/08/2005 8:13:01 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: PatrickHenry

And your rationalization for creation ex nihlo is what? Grapefruits or multiverse ex nihlo?


23 posted on 04/08/2005 8:14:50 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: PatrickHenry

Better get out your Kevlar.


24 posted on 04/08/2005 8:15:11 AM PDT by furball4paws (Ho, Ho, Beri, Beri and Balls!)
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To: Amish with an attitude

And life is still not brought about by any method of "Primordial Soup"


25 posted on 04/08/2005 8:15:47 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: PatrickHenry

Well said.


26 posted on 04/08/2005 8:16:05 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: MacDorcha

Me saying life came by chance would be as ill informed as those of you believing that a bunch a bronze age desert wanderers had the whole skinny on the origins of the universe.

Maybe God does work in mysterious ways....perhaps through a process that looks, feels, tastes and smells like evolution.


27 posted on 04/08/2005 8:16:21 AM PDT by Vaquero ("There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain))
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To: MacDorcha
If you claim life came about by "chance" then reducing the chances would increase the results. We are yet to see this fulfilled.

Science has come up with some really cool looking slime , though. Kids can buy globs of it at Wal Mart.

28 posted on 04/08/2005 8:16:24 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: concerned about politics
Luckily for good 'ol stubborn man kind, quantum psychics (GASP! Why, that's "science" too!) is finally catching up with religion, and it's about time.

I know we're supposed to be all serious here, but the idea of quantum psychics is pretty funny.

29 posted on 04/08/2005 8:16:24 AM PDT by Chiapet
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To: MacDorcha
I'll buy that. If it isn't engineered, and simple chemistry experiments can bring it about, it would suggest exactly what you said.

Your open-mindedness is admirable. Although I'm not clear on your proviso "If it isn't engineered ..."

30 posted on 04/08/2005 8:17:08 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: concerned about politics

Pond Scum Alert!


31 posted on 04/08/2005 8:17:36 AM PDT by furball4paws (Ho, Ho, Beri, Beri and Balls!)
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To: MacDorcha
And life is still not brought about by any method of "Primordial Soup"



No Primordial soup for you!

32 posted on 04/08/2005 8:17:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: PatrickHenry

Just a side-note:

I agreed with your arguement about what would be suggested on the basis of "if."

Keep this in mind though, your entire post was on the basis of "if" and is yet unprovable. Keep that in mind next time you slam at an IDist or Creationist.


33 posted on 04/08/2005 8:19:01 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: Chiapet

I thought he was trying to be series...


34 posted on 04/08/2005 8:20:04 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: PatrickHenry

It's time to play Count the Fudge Words- "probably", "could have been", "would have been", "may have begun" "assumed". Let's also add some "Oops, Never Mind" words- "surprising finding", "alter the way many scientists think", "flawed", "incorrect" "blind assumption".

Help me Patrick, I'm confused. I thought that all this was figured out by the "scientists", and it was only ignorant religious types who questioned it.


35 posted on 04/08/2005 8:20:11 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: PatrickHenry
Now, sensing that the "miracle" of life is soon to be created in a mundane lab by mere lab rats -- and not by gods and angels -- we can observe an almost instinctive moving of the goalposts.

WRONG! The scientist are playing the role of the creator in the lab. The only way to prove life formed itself is to put all the compounds on a table, shut the door, and watch it grow.

36 posted on 04/08/2005 8:20:24 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: concerned about politics

"Science has come up with some really cool looking slime"

So did the South Dakota electorate. Fortunately he was voted out last election.


37 posted on 04/08/2005 8:22:14 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: PatrickHenry

If there is no guiding hand, simply a recreation of the "environment."

Engineering would suggest that some sort of "plant" was present. The technicians spun the "chances" into favor of life. No retrovirus or other "non-living" organisms were present. No cell membranes formed prior to the experiment. Just a cup of "soup" and energy.


38 posted on 04/08/2005 8:23:26 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: concerned about politics
I'm with you. I don't call this science at all. They do not question their premise (life arose spontaneously from dead matter) and they do not question their conclusion (human life evolved from the life which arose spontaneously from dead matter).

They just insert new intermediate steps whenever their old theory is found to have holes. I call it dodging and weaving in an attempt to stick with premises and conclusions which were accepted on faith a long, long time ago.

39 posted on 04/08/2005 8:24:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Dog Gone

It's the similar as today. The extreme upper atmosphere is very hot, but the air pressure there is extremely low. It's near the atmosphere/space boundary. It's only in the lower atmosphere that the temperature vs altitude rule that we directly experience holds.


40 posted on 04/08/2005 8:25:18 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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