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NM Gov. Bill Richardson signs improved concealed carry law
The Albuquerque Journal | Dave Kavanaugh

Posted on 04/07/2005 3:34:54 PM PDT by petca-tim

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To: petca-tim

It is obvious to me that Richardson has his eye on the VP position in the next election, but he seems to be just a step slow.


21 posted on 04/07/2005 6:02:41 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: iowamark
Every citizen should have the right to carry a weapon. Bravo for Gov Richardson.

A few years ago I made a wrong turn while driving through Panama City, Panama. I was in a real bad part of the city and as I stopped at a red light three thugs approached my car. One of them shouted for me to give him money and tried to open my car door. I knew deep down inside they were up to no good. I put my pistol (had a carry permit)in my lap and told him to get away from my car. He said something to his two buddies and they hauled ass.
People need to be able to protect themselves from the savages of the world.
22 posted on 04/07/2005 6:18:29 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: Southack; T.L.Sink; Coleus; glock rocks
I agree, with regard to gun control.

The pro-abortion lobby, on the other hand, is a totally different beast.

Bill Richardson, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, etc., can tell Sarah Brady & Co. to pound sand, and they won't have any choice in the matter.

The fact is, the radical feminists, trial lawyers lobby and a host of other implacable special interest constituencies would never allow the Dems to modify their stance on abortion one iota.

Ditching their formulaic anti-gun platform is something that is not only feasible, but sensible.

No one seriously believes that either Frank Lautenberg or Charles Schumer is going to be the next nominee for the Dem. Party.

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

23 posted on 04/07/2005 6:21:14 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: T.L.Sink
I still prefer former Governor Johnson.

Though I suppose we could do worse than Richardson.

24 posted on 04/07/2005 6:22:34 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: petca-tim

Are you sure you didn't mean one can carry a picture of a gun?


25 posted on 04/07/2005 6:27:43 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: petca-tim

Richardson is a good guy. I wish he would switch parties.


26 posted on 04/07/2005 6:44:06 PM PDT by montag813
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To: brushcop

Arkansas has a screwed up law also about carrying in your vehicle. It is O:K if you "are on a journey". Also been interpreted this way and that. I think these are old hang overs from Jim Crow.


27 posted on 04/07/2005 6:52:00 PM PDT by therut
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To: Squantos
ALmost the end of the world when rats sign such into law....

Don't these fools realize that now even the slightest disagreement will turn New Mexico into the OK Corral?

LOL... I bet Sarah is changing her depends hourly.




Yes, Jim, it's indeed time for a march on the SCOTUS and the Judiciary and the Senate.

28 posted on 04/07/2005 7:09:00 PM PDT by glock rocks (Support Free Republic - become a monthly donor - Remember, only you can prevent fundraisers)
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To: glock rocks

It did bring a grin ..............


29 posted on 04/07/2005 8:09:37 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Don't kid yourself. There are plenty of RINOS who are
pro-choice AND in favor of gun control -- and higher taxes!


30 posted on 04/07/2005 8:38:13 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: glock rocks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379638/posts?page=12#12


31 posted on 04/07/2005 10:44:40 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
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To: B4Ranch

I was going to say it would be cool to condense your excellent statement into a tag line.

Then I read your tag line.

Exactly.


32 posted on 04/07/2005 11:52:36 PM PDT by glock rocks (Support Free Republic - become a monthly donor - Remember, only you can prevent fundraisers)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; petca-tim; loboinok; brushcop; glock rocks; Common Tator; ...

Oh good! As FR's unofficial and token gun-friendly Democrat, I get to weigh in on something near and dear to my heart.

In my view, "gun control" is circling the drain in the Democratic party. I think that Common Tator's observations are cogent. I believe that a consensus has emerged since 9-11 that "gun control", in general, is simply a bad idea. Democrats are looking to win political office. When you hit a tipping point on any political issue be it social security, guns, abortion, borders, etc., a political party has a choice: it can either go along with the vast majority or it can lose. I think we're about at that tipping point nationally with regard to "gun control." In some parts of the country (i.e. the south) we're well past that point. In the northeast, we're probably not quite there, but close.

Neither political party is going to hang onto a political position that is going to cause them to lose, at least in the long run. "Gun control" is quickly becoming one of those issues.

So I guess the question really becomes what can be done to expedite the process? I think there are really two problems that are delaying the Democratic party from becoming a pro-gun political party. First, the Democratic party base, in general, is in the northeast and cities. Places where the "gun control" ideology tends to be strong. In my view, not much can be done about that, at least in the short term. But also realize that there are a lot of people within the Democratic party who understand that the party can't win nationally without winning in the south and the west. Democrats saw the red/blue map too. Pursuing an anti-gun agenda is not a good way to start winning in the south and west.

The second problem is the gun rights movement itself and our ongoing reluctance to work with Democrats. For a long time, the gun-rights catechism has been "Republicans good for guns, Democrats bad." The reality is that you can point to numerous instances where the opposite has been true. Here in Virginia, our biggest problem hasn't been the "bad" Democratic governor who has signed every pro-gun bill put in front of him, but the "good" Republican state senate that takes perverse joy in defeating gun rights bills before they ever get to the governor's desk.

I see more potential in this regard, and have seen some change in the thinking of gun rights folks in the last couple of years. We're beginning to view our Republican "friends" with a more critical eye, and our Democratic "enemies" as having some potential. Unfortunately, changes in thinking have been slow in translating into action. There's a shortage of gun rights activists who are willing to work the issue within the Democratic party, and that will slow down movement towards a more gun-friendly Democratic party.


33 posted on 04/09/2005 7:03:39 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Rumors of the demise of the conservative Democrat have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: RKBA Democrat
You do have it about right. The NRA, as far as I can tell, couldn't care less what party you're from, as long as you're with them on guns.

The big problem that the Dems have is MoveOn.Org. Those guys are way out, and will not let the Dems have any room on guns - certainly at the federal level.

So far the Dems haven't even tried to shake them off - so when a pro-gun Democrat does come along, he has to work really, really, hard to tell his voters that he never heard of MoveOn.Org (and related groups) or the national leaders that now answer to MoveOn. It has been done successfully, at times, but it is very difficult when the voters see people like Pelosi.
34 posted on 04/09/2005 9:43:18 AM PDT by BobL
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To: petca-tim
Bump Bang! for later reading.
35 posted on 04/09/2005 2:45:57 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (No Christian child should be left behind in government schools.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The trend has been that many Democrats have tried to
distance themselves from the gun-control agenda because
it has cost them votes. Even Bill Clinton said that three
years ago. You raise a good point that the entire Democratic party shouldn't be portrayed as anti-gun. The
best way to determine what individual candidate positions
are is to check out the NRA pre-election evaluations --
they can tell you alot about national and state candidates
for office. If you aren't a member and don't receive their
mailings the info. can be found on their website.


36 posted on 04/09/2005 2:46:48 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: RKBA Democrat; Tax-chick; Valin; montag813; Sweet_Sunflower29; BobL; iowamark; Southack; ...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400082382/qid=1113083804/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-6624451-9560919


37 posted on 04/09/2005 2:57:58 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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