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Need a hero? Try Judge Greer
Quad City Times ^ | Ap 7 05 | John Beydler

Posted on 04/07/2005 3:12:55 PM PDT by churchillbuff

That poor woman down in Florida is dead but the exploitation may be eternal.

The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, "dedicated to protecting" Terri Schiavo's life and liberty, is re-dedicating itself to "assisting other desperate families in their efforts to protect vulnerable loved ones." You can, of course, continue to contribute your dollars. Just visit www.terrisfight.org and click on the "donations" link. PayPal works.

The website promises there will soon be updates on how the foundation will go about "assisting other desperate families." I don't suppose "leaving them alone" is among the options being considered.

Thought not. Once there's been a media circus big enough to tear the Rev. Jesse away from that other Jackson's superstar trial, there's no choice but to try again. So, if your family is among the tens of thousands that will face a when-and-how-to-die decision sometime soon, and if you'd like to circus to come to you, just let the foundation know.

Too cynical, you say? Maybe, but I'd say I'm just "consider(ing) all the evidence in the light of reason, common sense and experience," just like judges instruct jurors to do when they deliberate a verdict.

Speaking of judges, the much maligned and threatened George Greer simply followed the law as it exists, applied sworn facts as presented in court by all parties and made his decision. He then refused to be influenced by the mob in the streets or the ones in the legislative chambers. What more can you ask of a judge?

Not much, said the Clearwater Bar Association in praising his courage in the face of death threats and endless vilification.

You should read his 2000 order in the case that spawned the controversy. He discusses in detail the central issue; that is, what would be Terri's wishes, and how he came to decide she would not want to be kept alive in the circumstances. He also deals with the medical evidence, as presented in sworn testimony, which is different than the many affidavits you can find at www.terrisfight.org . These inevitably include the phrase, "I have not physically examined Ms. Schiavo..." and/or "I have not seen her medical records..."

Do the reading, then apply your own reason, common sense and experience.

If you still think Judge Greer's the villain, fine. Join the move to impeach him. Me, I think he kept his head when all about him, others were losing their's. That makes him a hero in a story way short on those.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: greer; schiavo
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To: churchillbuff

"Bark alert" works, too--this column is a real dog.


21 posted on 04/07/2005 3:53:57 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Lexinom

Oh NOW the sheethead liberals are ALL for the laws, state's rights, and federalism. What total and utter BS. Hey if yuou love the fking law so much, LET THE PEOPLE OWN GUNS AND ASTOP KILLING BABIES, A-HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 04/07/2005 3:57:43 PM PDT by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: churchillbuff

Judging testimony that completely contradicts previously sworn testimony to be be credible and calling it clear and convincing doesn't seem that heroic.


23 posted on 04/07/2005 4:00:40 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: sinkspur

Here come the turkeys? :-)


24 posted on 04/07/2005 4:03:13 PM PDT by k2blader (If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
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To: L.N. Smithee
I notice that while the author has no trouble kicking the Schindlers in the stomach

NO. NO. NO.

The author had no trouble taking that dull-edged knife that was stuck into the Schindlers' heart and very soul and TWISTING IT EVEN MORE.

25 posted on 04/07/2005 4:15:02 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: churchillbuff

Don't be so ruff on yourself.


26 posted on 04/07/2005 5:57:27 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: Jacquerie

The murder is on Judge Greer's head and the whole justice system, cops included. I don't care what Cheney et al are saying about placing us in submission to judges and the need to avoid judging them.

These people are not normal, they are fanatic freaks willing to sacrifice themselves and put this on their own heads for sake of "achievement" through murdering/death of others.


27 posted on 04/07/2005 6:11:53 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: churchillbuff

(With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy.) You might be a hero judge if you take as absolute, unimpeachable truth the statement from michael schaivo that all he wanted to do was fulfill a vow to her (come hell or high water) not to force her to live like she was, while at the same time totally ignoring the absolute, unimpeachable truth that michael schiavo could not even fulfill the higher vow to her of "forsaking all others til death do us part".


28 posted on 04/07/2005 6:21:59 PM PDT by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (...And on the 666th day, satan created the demonrat party.)
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To: churchillbuff

"Need a hero? Try Judge Greer"

Hmmm NO THANK YOU, even the question makes me want to barf. Let's see, who had the money to spend on the Lawyers and the Dr.s why it was MS of course, using her money to legally kill her. I find that getting after
fund raising on her behalf obnoxious and ridiculous.
The hero is not Greer by a long shot. A$$bucket doesn't know the meaning of "family" and blood relatives. He is
beneath contempt. Black is a good color for his robe, now all he needs is a hood and a scyle and the picture will be complete.


29 posted on 04/07/2005 7:43:09 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: sinkspur

Here's some documentation about his handler.

http://www.missionsun.net/tcajune2004.htm


30 posted on 04/07/2005 7:51:22 PM PDT by tertiary01 (So just how many highly paid "professionals" does it take to kill a disabled dependent woman?)
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To: churchillbuff

This is the SICKEST ARTICLE SO FAR!!!!!!!! definitely needed a barf alert!! Pardon me while I head for the bathroom!!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 04/07/2005 7:53:28 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: tertiary01

Whose handler? Greer is in the St. Petersburg diocese, with Robert Lynch as bishop.


32 posted on 04/07/2005 7:54:09 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: churchillbuff

"You're quite the chess player, Judge Greer!"

33 posted on 04/07/2005 8:02:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: churchillbuff
It's been said before, I'll say it again:

If Judge Greer had ordered a brain-damaged dog to be starved to death, 90% of the people would have been all over his @ss. Because it was a human being, a large segment of the population wants to canonize him. Utterly sick.
34 posted on 04/07/2005 8:02:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: sinkspur

Didn't read the article did you?


35 posted on 04/07/2005 8:33:52 PM PDT by tertiary01 (So just how many highly paid "professionals" does it take to kill a disabled dependent woman?)
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To: churchillbuff
Well worth reading on this case: CodeBlueBlog.
36 posted on 04/07/2005 8:35:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Joe 6-pack

I actually saw that movie. I can't remember the name of it. It was a strange one.


37 posted on 04/07/2005 8:49:58 PM PDT by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: exDemMom

The Seventh Seal (not to be confused w/ Demi Moore's, "The Seventh Sign.)


38 posted on 04/07/2005 8:57:19 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: churchillbuff
Articulate, cogent and accurate. The ideologues have the knee-jerk response that whenever a judge basis a decision on the law as they must be applied to the facts in the trial or appellate record that is contrary to their fervently held ideological tenents and political agenda the court must therefore be (1) liberal and (2) making new law from the bench. That was foolish when it first surfaced in the New Deal era wwhen the courts initially struck down child labor laws, interstate commerce regulated business conduct and several other acts. It was asserted once again when several states sought to interpose their state laws (by those who are now bulwarks of the Republican Party) in an effort to block the several civil rights laws.

One would think, or at least hope, that legally trained voices such as that shrill, unhumorous and fervently ideological Laura Ingraham would exhibit at least a modicum of intellectual honesty on this subject. But it has become obvious that, notwithstanding her supposed training in logical thought obtained from a good law school and a Supreme Court clerkship, she has become a bought-and-paid- for shill for the fringe on the Right It is apparent that she, and the demegogue-in-chief, Rush Limbaugh, would happily find some cockemamie rationale, seeking to support attemptseeking to negate the several civil rights laws and maintain the horrific former segregation and Jim Crow laws and policies of the South. Those attempts failed when engaged in by those who are now in the leadership roles of the GOP.

Now the mantra about "activist" courts is shouted again because courts apply state and federal law notwithstanding the hue and cry of a discrete segment of society who seek to coerce courts to make decisions consistent with their ldeological, religious and political agendas. The prayers of the sane segment of society must be that judges remain unaffected and continue to ignore the screams and threats of the lame brains who haven't a clue as to what are intended to do.

Courts do not bend to the will of a bunch of loudmouth politicians and single issue political hacks, ulterior motive driven politicians hading behind the false cloak of religion and their unthinking, slavish followers.

For a bunch of activists whose recurrent theme is to keep government out of our lives, they seem to easily put that dogma aside when it comes to who sleeps with whom, what books and movies we can read or view without the FBI noting our conduct or that those who differ from them becomce a mob when they seek redress vis-a-vis the "good" citizens merely expressing an opinion when they congregate to block entrances to lawful businesses or to interfere with the execution of lawful court orders, their situational ethics are astounding.

39 posted on 04/08/2005 12:46:05 AM PDT by middie
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To: churchillbuff

Need a God complex, follow Judge Greer.

http://orsa.blogspot.com/2005/03/quality-vs-sanctity-why-should-i-get.html


40 posted on 04/08/2005 4:03:15 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Journalists are not very bright, and invariably subscribe to a litany of dubious theories!)
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