Posted on 04/07/2005 2:00:19 PM PDT by CHARLITE
With the publication of Jane Fondas autobiography, the public in general and veterans in particular have once again been insulted by her contentless apology for a single episode in her multi-faceted junket to Hanoi in July 1972. Fondas charade on 60 Minutes the other night was simply a robotic reprise of what she has been repeating as a mantra for years in words carefully crafted by her spin doctors.
In our 2002Aid and Comfort: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam, Erika Holzer and I wrote the following:
"[After the Vietnam War ended], Fonda went on with her life garnering more adulation as an actress; becoming a fitness guru; providing untold millions to her office-seeking politician husband Tom Hayden in support of an assortment of far-left causes; marrying media billionaire Ted Turner; establishing herself as a Hollywood icon; piling up award upon award; and recently pursuing other causes. But she has never been made to account for her wartime trip to North Vietnam."
"Fondas seeming apology on Barbara Walters TV show '20/20' in 1988 was hollow and insincere not to mention, incomplete. Her pose, she told Walters, on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down American planes was 'a thoughtless and cruel thing to have done.' She was sorry she had hurt the prisoners in the Hanoi Hilton, she had been 'thoughtless and careless.'
[This footnote followed the text]: During an interview in 2000 Fonda told Oprah Winfrey, 'I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in antiaircraft carrier [sic] which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. That had nothing to do with the context that photograph was taken in. But it hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless. I wasnt thinking; I was just so bowled over by the whole experience that I didnt realize what it would look like.'
The Washington Times, July 7, 2000 (commentary by Bruce Herschensohn). Fonda limiting her 'apology' to the antiaircraft gun incident is yet another example of her attempt to minimize her activities in North Vietnam. On February 9, 2001, Fonda was at it again on Walters '20/20' show. Walters said Fonda had been 'against the war,' and the actress agreed, leaving the implication that being against the war justified her propagandizing for the enemy from its own soil. Yet millions of loyal Americans, who also opposed the war including some much more prominent than Fonda never traveled to the capitol of a country that was killing our troops and torturing our prisoners.
Fonda said, 'It just kills me that I did things that hurt those men,' apparently referring to our POWs. Its obvious she never bothered to find out how she hurt 'those men' men who were injured, sick, debilitated, and treated by their captors in a manner that in [our] book [we] could hardly bring [ourselves] to describe. She made no effort to learn the toll her activities took on the morale of our prisoners and men still in the field, nor the punishment some received for upholding their honor and refusing to meet with her. Worse . . . after repatriation was concluded on April 1, 1973 and the details of our POWs ordeal were revealed, Fonda called the returned POWs 'liars and hypocrites' for reporting that they had been brutally tortured.
Finally, Fonda told Walters and her viewers that hurting the prisoners was 'not my intent.'
In [our book] we spend dozens of pages discussing Fondas intent. One wonders what Fondas answer would have been if Walters had asked Fonda what her intent was. So, once more, the Jane and Barbara show allowed Fonda to offer yet another glib, superficial 'apology,' just like her earlier ones, aimed at convincing the gullible that Hanoi Jane is truly sorry for what she did in North Vietnam. She is not. She never was. Once the full truth is known, even the gullible will not take seriously any more Fonda 'apologies.'
[Our text then continued]: What makes Fondas regret ring so hollow and self-serving are her revealing words in a 1989 interview, in which she stated categorically: 'I did not, have not, and will not say that going to North Vietnam was a mistake . . . I have apologized only for some of the things that I did there, but I am proud that I went.'
[This footnote followed the text]: Even genuine repentance on Fondas part would not have erased . . . what she had done in Hanoi."
Jane Fondas conduct in Hanoi is examined at length in Aid and Comfort, but to summarize:
Touring the so-called War Crimes museum in the company of North Vietnamese Communist civilian and military officials and members of the international press, and there making pro-Communist and anti-American propaganda statements. . . . Touring a North Vietnamese hospital in the company of North Vietnamese Communist civilian and military officials and members of the international press, and there making pro-Communist and anti-American propaganda statements. Touring dikes and populated areas in the company of North Vietnamese Communist civilian and military officials and members of the international press, and there making pro-Communist and anti-American propaganda statements. Touring the North Vietnamese countryside in the company of North Vietnamese Communist civilian and military officials and members of the international press, and there making pro-Communist and anti-American propaganda statements.
Making a live broadcast, through the radio facilities of the North Vietnamese regime, containing pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda, which broadcast was taped for later replay. Touring a textile center in the company of North Vietnamese Communist civilian and military officials and members of the international press, and there making pro-Communist and anti-American propaganda statements. Making a second live broadcast, through the radio facilities of the North Vietnamese regime, containing pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda, which broadcast was taped for later replay.
Meeting with seven captured American airmen and haranguing them with pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda. Being interviewed by a French journalist and continuing to make her pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda statements. Making a third live broadcast, through the radio facilities of the North Vietnamese regime, containing pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda, which broadcast was taped for later replay. Holding a press conference in Hanoi, where she described her activities since arriving in North Vietnam, and continuing to make her pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda statements. Making a fourth live broadcast, through the radio facilities of the North Vietnamese regime, containing pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda, which broadcast was taped for later replay.
Making two more live broadcasts on one day, through the radio facilities of the North Vietnamese regime, containing pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda, which broadcasts were taped for later replay. Meeting with North Vietnamese Vice Premier Nguyen Duy Trinh and continuing to make her pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda statements. In the company of Communist civilian and military officials and members of the international press, posing in the control seat of a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun, feigning taking sight on an imaginary American aircraft, and, by her conduct and words, continuing to make her pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda statements.
Has anyone heard an apology for any of this from Hanoi Jane?
Jane Fonda handed our guys' desperate notes to her N.Vietnamese hosts, which traitorous act resulted in worse torture for our POWs.
Jane, you ignorant slut!
They failed to mention what the Hanoi press quoted her as saying when she was peering through the anti-aircraft gun...
"Now let's find those blue-eyed sons of bitches"
Despicable
While its certainly believable that Hanoi Jane would do such a thing, I think that tale has been debunked.
The ignorant b**ch is claiming to apologize about her vists to north Vietnam only to increase book sales. In reality she isn't sorry for one thing.
Medved Talking about Fonda now.
Hanoi Jane is one up on Hanoi John Kerry, She did make an "apology"
I don't know where it could have been debunked. I read a/the book that tells the story from a guy that stood in the line and passed the note (or maybe he was quoted). I am a diehard skeptic of all that is outrageous and found it indisputable. He is quoted. In fact, the same book talks about how torture increased and the notes were read back to the POWs. It alleges that at least one POW died as a result of the increased intensity of the torture. There was also a documentary a few years back on Discovery or History Channel about it.
That's an urban legend.
See: http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp
She did lie but she did not get any notes.
I need to dig up that book and re-research it. I hate being made a fool of.
I still could not hate the c___ more.
(And now I need to see a priest and confess my sins of hatred.)
Maybe we need to set up a Freeping list like we did for all the other times when somebody needed to tell it like it is.
Last night on Letterman she blamed the right, can you believe it.
http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2005/04/hanoi-jane-mellows-but-song-still-same.html
There has to be a way to get Old Jane deported to some spot on earth where she is loved, perhaps North Korea?
I did get an impression, however. Hanoi Jane is one hard, tough old cookie. She has been badly used and comes across like a very, senior hooker with many years of hard experience. Why any one would want to hear about her lies and treason is completely beyond me. Letterman's kissing of Hillie's butt or Kerry's butt is understandable, they could do him some good in the future, maybe. An old hooker like Jane, why?
The dates and locations of her book tour would be valuable to Freepers all over the country. Any leads greatly appreciated.
There's no commandment that says "Thou shall not hate."
"Rode hard and put up wet"?
Might even have been the cover story.
Does anyone have anything more specific on if/when such an article appeared?
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