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Officials: Man not held against his will
AP ^ | 4/7/5 | ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN

Posted on 04/07/2005 1:04:16 PM PDT by SmithL

TUCSON, Ariz. - Authorities determined Thursday that three volunteers involved in a civilian project to watch the border and report illegal crossers did not hold an illegal immigrant against his will.

The Mexican man had told sheriff's deputies that he was detained and forced to pose for a picture holding a T-shirt with a mocking slogan. The shirt read: "Bryan Barton caught an illegal alien and all I got was this T-shirt." Barton was one of the three volunteers.

"The county attorney's office reviewed all available evidence, that indicates that there was no forcible detention, therefore the case is not substantiated, and no charges are pending," said Carol Capas, a spokeswoman for the Cochise County Sheriff's Department.

The sheriff's department, Mexican Consul Miguel Escobar and the U.S. Border Patrol also agreed that the 26-year-old man was not detained, said Capas and Border Patrol spokeswoman Andrea Zortman.

The volunteers involved in Wednesday's incident identified themselves as members of the Minuteman Project - a monthlong effort that has people from around the country spread out along a stretch of the Arizona-Mexico border to report undocumented migrants and smugglers.

Law enforcement officials have said they fear the project will lead to vigilante violence. Mexico's foreign relations department also pledged in the days leading up to the civilian operation to pursue all legal and diplomatic means to stop the volunteers and ensure that they do not violate the rights of Mexican citizens.

Wednesday's incident was the first reporting any possible detention, though volunteers earlier assisted an immigrant in distress.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; minutemanproject; mmp
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To: judgeandjury
LOL! That's your "proof"? A single article in the pro-illegal immigration, pro-open borders Denver Post?

And what do you have, Judgeandjury?

101 posted on 04/07/2005 6:09:57 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: judgeandjury; Dane; PRND21
The voters in Tancredo's district overwhelmingly re-elected him despite the fact that Tancredo changed his mind. It appears that you are one of the few people who is still bothered by it.

Voters overwhelmingly reelected George Bush, despite his immigration plans. You seem to be one of the few people still bothered by it.

102 posted on 04/07/2005 6:12:23 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone; Spiff

I'll kiss him. :-)


103 posted on 04/07/2005 6:43:32 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Yeah, you like those classy guys who run for office like your pal Rick Stanley. I'll give you this MileHi, no one can pick a winner like you. :) Yeah, you like those classy guys who run for office like your pal Rick Stanley. I'll give you this MileHi, no one can pick a winner like you. :)

Really? Where did I ever support Stanley? Just more of your baiting bullshit. And don't post a smiley face to me. You aren't funny, you are an a$$hole.

104 posted on 04/07/2005 7:07:31 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: Squantos
Now ya'll remember to wash yer hands when your done playing with the idiots. And be easy on em as we'd like to see em stay here to keep bumpin the thread vs just get another time out from the mods.

I would advocate for a better class of troll myself.

Say what you want about Cultural Jihad, but I always got the impression CJ at least had 2 brain cells to rub together.

CJ was the master of the 'guilt by association' and 'passive-aggressive thread baiting' tactic, but behind those tired tactics was at least some degree of intellect. These clowns are pathetic pretenders to that tactic, too stupid to know they are intellectually outclassed by 90% of the people on the forum.

PRND21 has the same tired "Simcox = Felon" lie every time. ClintonBeGone has the same discredited article in the Denver Post from 3 years ago. Dane, harrowup and Ben Ficklin show up on the short bus with obtuse non sequiturs, and round and round we go ... I had hoped that the mods would see these clowns as using the exact same tactics that got CJ dismissed, and we would be finally free of them ... my plan doesn't seem to be working.

Its not bad enough that they use disruption and baiting and misdirection to derail and pollute threads ... its that they are becoming BORING in doing so.

I miss CJ.

105 posted on 04/07/2005 7:12:35 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Squantos

You know, Squantos, there are a few who I have ignored the last few days, check my posts. But these folks are getting on my last nerve. They spam every thread. Hell they almost got Dead Corpse to go too far. I don't even know if I like Dead Corpse but this crap is too much. Anyway, I will hold my fire.

FReegards, buddy.


106 posted on 04/07/2005 7:14:44 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: spodefly

What? CJ is gone? Last i checked she was still being CJ.


107 posted on 04/07/2005 7:16:38 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: MileHi

Last time I checked, CJ had the pale blue screen of doom ... maybe the time out is over. I don't know ...


108 posted on 04/07/2005 7:19:37 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: MileHi

Last time I checked, CJ had the pale blue screen of doom ... maybe the time out is over. I don't know ...


109 posted on 04/07/2005 7:19:40 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

And I stutter!


110 posted on 04/07/2005 7:20:04 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: ClintonBeGone; Spiff
"I'm sure someone from the MMK will be here to give him a pass too."

It's been suggested that I add that slur to the "Legacy List". How many does that make for you, so far? And without one shred of evidence from anyone that the Minutemen are anything but patriots!

The Legacy of Slurs by the Criminal Alien Lobby:
"vigilantes"
"skinheads"
"neo-Nazis"
"KKK"
"MMK" (Minute Men Klan)
"Stormfront"
"racists"
"criminal thugs"
"felons"
"fat old ex-supply sergeants"
"armed angry bumpkins"
"alcoholics in camouflage"
"ideologue drunkards"
"yahoos"
"clowns"
"mental defectives"
"cancers on America"
"moonshine patriots"
"Timothy McVeigh's"
"Lee Harvey Oswald's"
"rednecked trailer trash"
"good ole boys with shotguns"

--Boot Hill

111 posted on 04/07/2005 7:30:00 PM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: judgeandjury

That's the problem with voluntary term limits. If you do a really good job, people will beg you to stay on, and you worry about what your replacement would do in your place. FReegards.....


112 posted on 04/07/2005 7:44:30 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: MileHi

That's all they are trying to do .... so don't fall for the BS that'll get ya banned. Just keep on doing what ya know is fair and right !

Stay safe !!!


113 posted on 04/07/2005 8:06:18 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos; Afronaut; Eaker
Guess which border belongs to the world's greatest super power, in wartime.


114 posted on 04/07/2005 8:14:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: spodefly
Yep, CJ and Bayrod really made us work for our hits. Now we're just left with the weak sisters and mental cases.

And Santa Anna's brother.

115 posted on 04/07/2005 8:16:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: MileHi

Just thank them for bumping the threads. Every reply = 18 new views.


116 posted on 04/07/2005 8:17:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I forgot about Bayourod ... that dood really worked for his positions. He wasn't so much a baiter as he was just wrong ... seemed to like the fact that the US Government was redistributing taxpayer money to cover the costs for illegals ... he was good at what he did though ... I can at least respect that.

Sad isn't it that we are reminiscing over defunct thread baiters ... actually CJ may not be defunct ... I just checked and his/her page is still there ... There's always a bright side ... :)
117 posted on 04/07/2005 8:25:30 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: judgeandjury
What does the acronym MMK stand for?

It's just CBG's way of trying to associate the MM with white supremacist groups like the KKK by calling them the Minute Man Klan. Just ignore the troll.

118 posted on 04/07/2005 8:31:57 PM PDT by NRA Patriot 1976 (God bless our troops)
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To: Travis McGee

LMAO !!.......Do ya have a link for MM updates ?


119 posted on 04/07/2005 8:33:15 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: spodefly

It'll be hard to drive these border threads to 1,000 replies and 18,000 views with only second string CALs.


120 posted on 04/07/2005 8:33:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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