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Poll: Canadian Protestants Approved Pope’s Moral Stands More than Francophone Catholics
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 04/06/05 | HW

Posted on 04/07/2005 6:22:52 AM PDT by Heartofsong83

Poll: Canadian Protestants Approved Pope’s Moral Stands More than Francophone Catholics

April 6, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Canada's National Post newspaper commissioned a Compass poll on Canadian attitudes to the achievements of the late Pope John Paul II. The Post found that Canadians have a remarkably positive view of the Pope’s achievements both as a religious leader and as a statesman.

The survey, conducted in February before the pope’s health started to fail, shows that Canadians of all Christian denominations held him in high regard.

“According to Canadians, the Pope’s greatest achievements were, standing up for traditional Catholic values; bringing respect for the Church through his own person and character; fostering enthusiasm for Christian beliefs among the young; bringing reconciliation and goodwill between Catholics and Jews; and helping to bring down communism in eastern Europe.

Interestingly, Canadian Protestants rated the pope higher on his defence of Catholic moral teaching than French-speaking Catholics. Using a 7-point scale, Canadians were asked to rate the pope’s achievements. Under the category, “Standing up for traditional Catholic values”, Protestant respondents rated the pope at 5.9 compared to French-speaking Catholics at 5.5.

The poll’s author says that most English-speaking Catholics respect the pope’s uncompromising stand on the usual roster of issues of sexual morality ­ such as abortion, artificial birth control and homosexuality ­ while at the same time feeling “ambiguous” about those issues themselves.

The collapse of Catholic practice and belief in the traditionally Catholic regions of French Canada is no secret. Also notable is that the majority of Canada's 72 Catholic dioceses, even in English-speaking regions, are led by bishops of French-Quebec origin and the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops is dominated by francophones. The Canadian church has for decades been considered one of the most liberal in the world. ‘Anti-Catholic’ sentiment in the federal government can also be linked to the large preponderance of lapsed or dissenting “Quiet Revolution” Quebec Catholics in Parliament and the civil service.

The poll also noted the esteem in which the late pope is held by Canada’s Jewish and Muslim population, which it says is almost as high as that of Protestant respondents and concomitantly higher than the pope’s own flock among francophone Catholics.

The poll’s author wrote, “Among Catholics alone, language also emerged as a driver with English-speakers appreciably more respectful of the Church, as of the Pope, than French-speakers.”

It is notable that while a dominant 45.61% of Canadians are Catholic, Canada leads the world both in its own laws and at the United Nations in implementing massive social re-engineering starting with contraception and divorce, moving through abortion and embryonic stem cell research and now legitimizing homosexuality. More is in the works, such as legalized euthanasia and prostitution. Francophone Catholics, in numerous key positions in government, education and the churches have played a major role in advancing or facilitating the destructive social transformation.

Read the Compass Poll: http://www.compas.ca/pages/FrameMain.html

HW


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: canada; catholic; francophone; johnpaulii; pope; protestant
Interesting but not surprising. The so-called "Catholics" in Quebec are more often than not Atheists disguised as Catholics...after all if it weren't for the French-speaking population, issues like abortion and gay marriage would be the main issues (and in the sense of banning them, not further legalizing them).
1 posted on 04/07/2005 6:22:52 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83

It's not just the French that suck, but French-speaking people in general...


2 posted on 04/07/2005 6:29:40 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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Because of the French influence, Canada's Catholic church is very liberal, far more liberal than the Vatican is. Our Catholic church should split up into an English and a French division...

Outside of Quebec, over 65% believe that restrictions (or bans) on abortion are necessary, nearly 70% believe that marriage = one man + one woman, common-law relationships are far less common and church attendance rates are more than triple what they are in Quebec.


3 posted on 04/07/2005 6:34:41 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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This is not just a French problem. It is a liberal problem. We need to hold so-called Catholic liberal politicians and liberal Bishops accountable for their actions.
4 posted on 04/07/2005 6:49:30 AM PDT by frogjerk
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Yes it is, but in the article it says the vast majority of the gay influence is coming from the French-speaking...


5 posted on 04/07/2005 6:51:28 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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Not surprising give the history of the Catholic Church in Québec. Before the Quiet Revolution, priests and politicians colluded to treat communities like personal fiefdoms and the resentment still lingers.


6 posted on 04/07/2005 6:58:20 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: Heartofsong83

How'd the WWI ditty go: "The frogs, the frogs are an interesting race; they fight with their feet and ___ with their face... they show particular parculiarity that's completely devoid of morality"


7 posted on 04/07/2005 7:21:56 AM PDT by meandog (bellum nec timendum nec provacandum)
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The frogs = the Francophones in this case?


8 posted on 04/07/2005 8:33:20 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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"Our Catholic church should split up into an English and a French division... "

Pretty much been done, called the "Anglican Church."

'Course it, like all human institutions (even those dedicated to God -- perhaps "especially those" dedicated to God) now has problems of its own.


9 posted on 04/07/2005 9:22:39 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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That's true, the Anglican Church of Canada (which I belonged to until 2001 when a pastor left and I couldn't get along with a new one) seems to be a lot more liberal than its members, the opposite of the Roman Catholic church...they want to endorse gay marriage, for example, but they have encountered serious backlash from their membership...


10 posted on 04/07/2005 9:26:03 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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It is true that Quebec catholics tend to be very liberal, however SSM was first legal in Toronto. Ontario IMO, is the one who decides who gets in to power not Quebec, they are also the problem not just Quebec. Quebec decides whether the gov. gets a majority or a minority.


11 posted on 04/07/2005 9:56:46 AM PDT by youngtory (The Conservative Party of Canada is no longer conservative all thanks to Harper.)
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Yep, that is unfortunate considering Ontario has 106 seats...of which at least 25 of them (mostly in the Greater Toronto Area) are Fiberal strongholds that even a Conservative majority would have a hard time topping...

Gay marriage was first legal in Toronto because that was where the corrupt judges first ruled in favor.


12 posted on 04/07/2005 10:05:45 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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"Yes it is, but in the article it says the vast majority of the gay influence is coming from the French-speaking..."

I'm not surprised. They have a fondness for money thrown to them via the government and now more monies through the courts by suing on the issue of discrimination against gay rights. Discrimination is the big, endearing, call to arms for the Quebecers... whether it is a language issue or now a sexual discrimination issue. Catholicism lost influence over them years ago when it was then seen as a means of protecting their culture. Now they are one of the most liberal and libertine cultures ever. Emphasis on language and perhaps French Postmodern thought (eg. Foucault -- of protecting minority rights, including gay rights) are the big yard sticks in measuring their success of not being assimilated by the English speaking world. That's my guess, anyway...
13 posted on 04/07/2005 12:09:21 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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That's correct.

The big gay activist organizations, including EGALE Canada and Canadians for Equal Marriage, get much of their funding from the federal government (Patrimoine Canadien/Canadian Heritage). In fact, EGALE lists Canadian Heritage as their #1 supporter, with over $2.75 million of their budget coming from the taxpayers (plus extra funding from Status for Women and the National Film Board, also government agencies).

Labor unions, such as CUPE, are also huge supporters of the group. Most of their clout is also in Quebec. Very little of their funding comes from individuals. The United Church of Canada, the ultra-liberal and dying church that strongly endorses gay marriage, is also listed.

http://www.egale.ca/index.asp?lang=E&item=113 for their funding list (BARF ALERT on that line!!!)

The Fiberal government has complained about the American influence over the anti-gay marriage groups (which there is no influence in terms of funding, just shared communications). Yet they don't realize that THEY are funding the activist groups themselves!!! I doubt they would complain if US groups were funding the gay activists!!!


14 posted on 04/07/2005 1:10:38 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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Outside of Quebec, over 65% believe that restrictions (or bans) on abortion are necessary, nearly 70% believe that marriage = one man + one woman, common-law relationships are far less common and church attendance rates are more than triple what they are in Quebec.

I don't know about your abortion statistic, since Ontario and urban BC are also very pro-abortion, but yes, the Quebeckers traded religions in the 1960's. The peasants of Quebec used to be in awe of priests, now they worship at that alter of the nanny-state.


15 posted on 04/07/2005 3:37:31 PM PDT by rasblue
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Thanks Heartofsong83 for the information. Surprising what you find out and what is being revealed with the Fiberals with regards to their corruption.
16 posted on 04/10/2005 10:44:15 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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