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It's a Flat World, After All (Long article)
NY Times ^ | 4/3/05 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 04/06/2005 7:33:32 AM PDT by Valin

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To: Madam Theophilus

The world was *larger* than Columbus reckoned. :0)


21 posted on 04/06/2005 8:52:23 AM PDT by agere_contra
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DA! Somewhere there is a connection break between my brain and fingertips! Thanks for the correction!


22 posted on 04/06/2005 8:58:38 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Valin
Even if the metaphor is stretched (flat?) the point is worth keeping in mind for anyone interested in the quality of our education, and our workforce. Bill Gates is right that our high schools are atrocious. U.S. fourth graders rock the world-- twelth graders are middling at best. So what happened in the middle? The sheer fact of being in a developed, wired, rich country will not be enough to guarantee a livelihood when folks other places can do the same job, and perhaps better. So, as the (wacky) Tom Peters used to say, you have to become Brand You. Our education system should push higher level skills and more importantly, flexibility, ability to adapt to changing situations, creativity, and finding solutions to problems (not just getting the answers in the back of the text book). Some folks have already adapted to this system or achieved that kind of education on their own. I think this is a fundamental divide in how folks who generally like the free market see outsourcing and (skilled) immigration. Those who have jobs that require them specifically feel like "let it rip!" Those who have jobs others could do approach both concepts with more wariness.
23 posted on 04/06/2005 9:07:41 AM PDT by laurav
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Well put.
The plant I work in is going to move out of state sometime soon. So many people I work with are OMG(!) what will I do! I keep telling them if you're a good worker and have lots of little pieces of paper that say I can do....this, you're always be able to get a good job.


24 posted on 04/06/2005 9:20:43 AM PDT by Valin (The Problem with Reality is the lack of background music)
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That is largely true. I wish it were a more fluid system, though. Because the labor market is less efficient than financial markets (employees don't see all available jobs and salaries, employers don't know everyone who's looking, and there are costs beyond salary incurred in hiring someone) people and companies waste a lot of time and money trying to find good matches.


25 posted on 04/06/2005 9:31:36 AM PDT by laurav
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To: Valin

Tom Friedman shows sheer ignorance of history, which isn't surprising, since he seems to be ignorant about almost everything else.

Earth to Friedman: Nobody in the middle ages or the Renaissance with any kind of education thought that the world was flat. The ancient Greeks figured out that it was round, the the Ptolemaic model, which everyone accepted until the time of Copernicus and Tycho Brahe, had a spherical earth at the center of the solar system.

It's perfectly clear in Dante's Commedia. Dante goes down through the center of a spherical earth, through hell, and out the other side, emerging on the island of Purgatory opposite Italy.

The only quarrel Columbus had with this common knowledge was that he suffered from the delusion that the sphere of the earth was much smaller than commonly thought, and therefore that it would be easy to sail around it. That's why he thought he had arrived in Asia when he hit America.

The rest of this column is also nonsense. Here we are, back to "The Lexus and the Olive Tree," with technology transforming the world. If only everyone had technology, there would be no more war. Ha. Who can look at the history of the past thousand years and even begin to imagine that the advancement of science will, in itself, put an end to war?


26 posted on 04/06/2005 11:28:30 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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RE: Who can look at the history of the past thousand years and even begin to imagine that the advancement of science will, in itself, put an end to war?

I'll raise you 3000. Who can look at the past 4000 years and conclude such a thing? View it from the perspective of our supposedly former adversaries. Here was the US / West, in its Cold War stance, being very guarded about sharing technology and engaging economically with Communists and other anti Western forces. Now, all of the sudden, based on some apparent liberalization in Eastern Europe, and the reengineering of the USSR into something beyond that, the West suddenly starts sharing technology, investing money and allowing businesses to go into places that were, and in some cases, still are, pretty scary. Now ask yourself, if you are sitting there in your anti Western office, are you going to perhaps put on an act, and appear to be a "made over" anti Western fiend? Perhaps, maybe you'll even allow a few Golden Arches to go up? And then, some Western pinhead writes a book stating that the erection of said Golden Arches means that there is "no way" you will ever attack the West ... "I wan't some more of those Golden Arches!" ;)


27 posted on 04/06/2005 11:46:12 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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I put it at a thousand years, because that's about when the scientific and technological revolution began in Christian Europe. There was plenty of sophisticated science earlier in Sumer, Greece, China, etc., but nothing like the kind of steady building of one advance upon another that began as Europe emerged from the Dark Ages. See Lynn Thorndike's many books on medieval technology.

But of course before that development began it would be difficult or impossible to find any connection between technological development and peace.

Friedman seems to imagine that as soon as the Arabs have Lexuses in their garages and laptop computers in their tents they will suddenly become nonviolent. Nonsense. It's well known that most of the al Qaeda leaders are rich and well educated, and that they seem to have a fascination with laptop computers.


28 posted on 04/06/2005 5:19:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

BTTT.


29 posted on 03/18/2008 1:39:18 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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