Dems Showed Soros Secret Rove Plan

National Review Online ^ | April 6, 2005 | Byron York

[kitchen]

The presentation, titled the "72 Hour Task Force," contained the results of a "top to bottom review," ordered by Rove, of GOP turnout efforts in the 2000 race. What was perhaps most remarkable about it was that it was a harrowingly self-critical assessment of the Bush campaign's performance. The essential question it asked was, Why did we come so close to losing? To find an answer, Rove began by taking a sober look at the difference between preelection state polls, which often showed Bush leading by significant margins, and the actual results of the election, in which Bush sometimes squeaked by. "In Arizona, the polling said we would win by ten, but we won by just six," the presentation said. "In Florida, the polling said we would win by two — we won by just a chad." That trend, Rove concluded, held true in nearly every other state Bush won.

I think we have a good handle on the extent of rat vote fraud, and, by extension, a look at their internal polls. Just like a hustler, they've been cheating just enough to win - stringing the public on election after election. In these cases their polls were wrong or they would have cranked out a few more boxes of ballots - just enough to win and keep the suckers coming back for the next game.

I wonder what the cost of failure is in the rat criminal enterprise. I would think that sooner or later they'd run out of get-out-of-jail-free cards or hit a roadblock in their system but these people never surface. Maybe they ascend to the rolls of permanent absentee voters.

[Mo1]

Thanks for the ping, JesseJane

Bumping this up on my comment page to read when I get back

[wildbill]

You may be right about the purloined tape. I didn't do a fact finder check, just relied on memory that it was a company that did political advertising campaigns.

[T. Buzzard Trueblood]

Soros became the biggest campaign donor in American history, giving more than $25 million to the effort to defeat George W. Bush.

It would be interesting to hear what the moveon.org crowd would have to say about a Republican donor spending this kind of money to defeat dims...you can bet that they'd be doing their damnedest to put him behind bars.

[CyberAnt]

I agree .. let them spend their ill gotten gains .. on losing.

[rowhey]

There is another side of this story that needs to be investigated: namely the illegal coordination between ACT, the state Democrat parties, the DNC, and the Kerry Campaign.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Ping

[oceanview]

good post.

I give Rove credit for his strategies regarding turnout.

But I still believe that the fundamental problem with the white house political team, that continues to this day, is their poor communications operation. they simply do not do a good job of getting a message out, of formulating a clear and concise message and repeating it over and over, and of getting surrogates to also use the same talking points. The Reagan team was great in this area, the current white house team stinks. We can't even get them to replace Scott McClellan, who is a terrible white house press spokesman.

[oceanview]

so that's the fundamental thing you want out of this party - the ability for people to rack up debts and then walk away into bankruptcy and dump the costs on the rest of us who responsibly pay our bills and live within our means?

[bert]

.....Hook. Line. Sinker....

That is "beware of park pigeons bearing CD's"

[HamiltonJay]

No, I want businesses that engage in stupid and foolish actions to take responsibility for their actions and deal with them and not go crying to Uncle Sam to bail them out! Responsiblity works both ways.. If a bank isn't going to be responsible about who they lend money to, then they have to deal with the fact that they lended to deadbeats and eat the losses.

5 Billion CC solicitations a year in a nation of 300 Million... banks have given credit anyone able to fog a mirror and then want to abdicate the fallout of their own failed business practices and use the force of government to bail them out... Its BS and its Crap and the Republican's in congress should be tarred and feathered for going along with it.

You can track the number of bankruptcy filings and number of credit card offers per year and you will find a DIRECT CORRELLATION! More offers, more bankruptcies... you'd think as a bank you'd realize... hmmm.. We are letting way to many folks that shouldn't get credit, we better tighten our lending requirements or we're going to go bankrupt... Oh no, Lets just make congress bail us out of our own stupidity.

The republicans in congress have sold out "responsibility" on this one.

[oceanview]

an offer for a credit card is not some kind of license to steal - to use the money to buy stuff and then thumb your nose at the issuers when they look to be paid. I get plenty of CC offers just like everyone else does, mine go into the shredder.

[IncPen]

Imagine the schmuck in the DNC who 'brought home' this little holy grail

Heh heh heh.

[Calpernia]

ping

[HamiltonJay]

Again you miss the point, not suprisingly. If you issue a credit card to someone with no money and a track record of not paying their bills... guess what, you are going to have to face the fact you loaned money to a deadbeat. You should do everything in your power to make sure that doesn't happen again.. that's called being responsible! However, banks don't do that do they? They keep on lending money out to folks who have no way in hell of repaying and whine to Uncle Sam to bail them out.

Sorry this bill is nothing more than welfare for bad business practices. You loan money to poor borrowers, you go out of business... well at least you used to, until the Republican's sold out responsibility for campaign donations!

This bill makes it tougher to file Chap 7 bankruptcy, which means Chap 13 bankruptcy attorney's are going to get more business thanks to this law... and EVEN THEY ARE AGAINST IT! It is that flipping bad of a law!!

The Republican's on this law basically lived up to every criticism they have gotten about selling out to corporate america. I'm a life long republican, but this law is a travesty, and smacks in the face of responsibility.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

"Democratic Senate aide found a CD-ROM lying on the ground in Lafayette Park"

If you found a CD-Rom laying on the ground, would you put it in your computer?

That story may very well be true as far as it goes.
But it was "found" there in a prearranged dead drop, not by accident IMO.

[Edgerunner]

Counter factual is my favorite...

[oceanview]

consumers were using the bankruptcy laws as licenses to steal - while it is true that the lenders are not screening as well as they could have, that does not discount the fact that alot of americans were simply scamming the system. maybe now they will just shred the CC applications, and in time when the issuers seem signups tailing off, they will stop sending them.

[HamiltonJay]

consumers were using the bankruptcy laws as licenses to steal

That's absolute lies and hogwash propogated by MBNA et al. Look at their own internal information about bankruptcies... you know what the number 1 cause of bankruptcy is? Do you ?? I do. Do you know number 2? Do you?? I do. Neither is people intentionally running up credit cards to buy stuff and refusing to pay credit card companies!

#1 is MEDICAL BILLS.

#2 is CREDIT CARD COLLECTION PRESSURE.. not refusal to pay, or even inability to pay, but credit card collection companies out and out harrassing debtors, violating the credit collection act of the 1970s (Yes, they do it all the time... CC Companies violate the law routinely and with impunity when it comes to their collection tactics) These people are unwilling or even unable to pay, but because of the collections actions of the CC departments, many in violation of FEDERAL LAW, drive folks to bankruptcy.

Willful intent to NOT pay ones debt, doesn't even make the top 10 of why folks declare bankruptcy! That's a complete falacy! Criminals don't get credit cards run them up and refuse to pay them off and run with the high price booty they bougth to jamaca... Criminals steal someone elses identity and spend money on those stolen Credit Cards, not their own!... The argument you are putting forth is absolute and unequivicable LIE.

Credit card companies themselves KNOW THIS! Its their own studies that have shown it!

Credit card companies don't obey the laws that they are supposed to, yet can buy Congress to get a law changed to cover up their own ineptitudes. This law is a travesty, and the Republicans need to be tarred and feathered for selling out to them for campaign contributions! Everyone bitches about Soro's 25 Million.. well guess what, thats exactly what the Republican Congress accepted, to sell out the american public to the Credit Card companies!

[oceanview]

well then there is nothing to worry about. if as you say there are no consumers who are willfully intending to defraud credit card companies, then they should be unaffected by having stricter bankruptcy regulations. I know I could care less about this law.