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Joyride ends in fatal shooting (Defensive Gun Use)
The Milwaukee Sentinal / Journal ^ | 04/04/2005 | Mary Zahn

Posted on 04/05/2005 1:45:00 PM PDT by flashbunny

Joyride ends in fatal shooting

Man claims he fired weapon in self-defense

By MARY ZAHN
Posted: April 4, 2005

Four juveniles could face homicide charges after a joyride in a family van ended in the fatal shooting of their cousin in a Milwaukee gas station parking lot, according to a hearing in Milwaukee County Children's Court Monday.

Kendell L. Moss, 20, of Racine died early Sunday, allegedly after trying to rob a 64-year-old man from Arkansas who had stopped at the gas station to ask directions, records show. After being punched and kicked, the man pulled a .44-caliber revolver from under the driver's seat of his car and shot Moss in the head, according to police reports.

"I don't have no money, I'm sick and just got out of the hospital," one of the juveniles quoted the elderly man as saying before he pulled out the gun.

The juveniles - three 16-year-olds and one aged 13, all of whom were unarmed - initially ran from the immediate area of the shooting but quickly returned to see if Moss was alive.

One of them gently picked up Moss' hand and started crying.

That same juvenile called 911 on his cell phone and then ran to another young man in the area who had witnessed the incident and yelled, "Hey, Hey! You got a cannon so I can air him out?"

The witness took that to mean that the juvenile was looking for a gun to shoot the motorist, who had fled into the gas station to wait for police, records show.

Drove to Milwaukee

According to police reports:

Moss and the juveniles drove to Milwaukee early Sunday and were looking for a place to purchase food. When the van they were in broke down near the gas station at N. 13th St. and W. North Ave., they hailed a cab driver in the area and were told a ride to Racine would cost $60.

All of the juveniles, at least three of whom have prior records, gave slightly different accounts of what happened after that, but all said they had no plans to rob anyone. They told police that Moss ended up in a confrontation with the elderly man who was seated in his van. However, one witness said he saw three of the juveniles running toward the man's van, with two others lagging behind.

The district attorney's office has until Wednesday to decide whether the juveniles will be charged with felony murder. Court Commissioner Julia Vosper ordered that they be held in secure detention. The 64-year-old man also was placed under arrest after the shooting, and his case was referred to the district attorney's office, Milwaukee Deputy Police Chief Brian O'Keefe said Monday morning during a news briefing.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: anotheronebitesdust; banglist; blackperpnodoubt; selfdefense
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Right now the police have released the victim from jail after spending 2 days there. According to police he will not be charged. If the liberals had their way and this man obeyed the moronic no-ccw law, he would likely be dead now.
1 posted on 04/05/2005 1:45:00 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Mr. Mojo

for your ping list


2 posted on 04/05/2005 1:46:00 PM PDT by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: flashbunny
That's great news that the guy won't be charged. It would be insanely easy to get him on carrying of a concealed weapon.

Note how the story is written, providing sympathy for the robbers, none for the victim.
3 posted on 04/05/2005 1:51:32 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: flashbunny

Head shot, head shot,
Best shot's a head shot

(Basic Training, 1985)


4 posted on 04/05/2005 1:52:11 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: flashbunny
"I don't have no money, I'm sick and just got out of the hospital," one of the juveniles quoted the elderly man as saying before he pulled out the gun.

There is something poetic about that sentence.

It's starts off so bad, and ends up so good.

5 posted on 04/05/2005 1:52:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: flashbunny
That stinks that the real victim had to spend 2 days in jail for defending himself. Other than that, good head shot on that piece of crap that tried to rob him. "Kendall L. Moss, 20, of Racine" won't get to be a big jerk ever again.
6 posted on 04/05/2005 1:52:51 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: flashbunny

Give him a medal and a check for his trouble.


7 posted on 04/05/2005 1:54:17 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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To: flashbunny

Just Damm
Head shot with a .44

Like they say on the railroad.
"That will do......."


8 posted on 04/05/2005 1:55:47 PM PDT by 76834
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To: SIDENET

"Hey, Hey! You got a cannon so I can air him out?"

I really doubt this is a direct quote, probably closer to: "Hey mofo you got a mofo'n cannon so I can air that honky mof**k** out."

Amazing how news articles never print the slang or contractions such street thugs normally use.


9 posted on 04/05/2005 1:56:44 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: flashbunny

What a tragic story! Four of them are still walking around alive today and I find that sad.


10 posted on 04/05/2005 2:05:06 PM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: flashbunny

That poor man now has to replace the bullets he used.


11 posted on 04/05/2005 2:07:35 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: NRA2BFree; F16Fighter; Larry Lucido; Grannyx4; Ladysmith; wardaddy; Squantos; Eaker; .38sw; ...

Defensive Use of Firearms Pinglist

If you want on/off this list, Freepmail me.

12 posted on 04/05/2005 2:10:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: flashbunny

Although I support the man's right to shoot the SOB in his self defense - I also know that it would just be a lot less hassle to pull the gun out and shoot in the air (assuming you have more than one bullet).


13 posted on 04/05/2005 2:11:20 PM PDT by nova32esq (I would have thought twice - but I do support his right.)
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To: nova32esq
"I also know that it would just be a lot less hassle to pull the gun out and shoot in the air (assuming you have more than one bullet)"

And risk killing an innocent person? Not too smart.

14 posted on 04/05/2005 2:13:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: nova32esq

You positively REEK of troll.


15 posted on 04/05/2005 2:13:50 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: flashbunny

Someone needs to warn the gangbangers not to mess with old Rednecks.
Can We start a collection to buy the Man a new .44?


16 posted on 04/05/2005 2:14:04 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (Let Me Die on My Feet in the Swamp, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: flashbunny
N. 13th St. and W. North Ave

Hey Hey you got a cannon so I can air him out?

An ill elderly man stops in just about the worst place in Milwaukee to ask for directions...gets beat up by gang punks and defends himself..

I sure hope he (the victim is black)

By victim I mean the old man not the punk that got his own a$$ shot up

imo

17 posted on 04/05/2005 2:14:28 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: nova32esq

"Although I support the man's right to shoot the SOB in his self defense - I also know that it would just be a lot less hassle to pull the gun out and shoot in the air (assuming you have more than one bullet)."

Join today just to show your ignorance?

1. The bullet has to go somewhere. When it comes back down from being fired in the air, it CAN kill someone.

2. Warning shots are frowned upon by everyone who knows anything about using a firearm.


18 posted on 04/05/2005 2:16:30 PM PDT by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: nova32esq

I also know that it would just be a lot less hassle to pull the gun out and shoot in the air
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If you are going to waste a bullet, at least make a mess of something!

Oh, and I was trained to shoot center mass, not 'shoot to wound' or any other garbage.

As a prior post says, Headshot? That'll do.


19 posted on 04/05/2005 2:16:43 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (10 months in Bosnia was merely a dress rehearsal for the 13 months in Iraq)
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To: flashbunny

Reminds me of the line from "Tombstone" Wyatt to crowd, "You all may get me, but not before I turn your head into a canoe"!


20 posted on 04/05/2005 2:17:38 PM PDT by TMSuchman (2nd Generation U.S. MARINE and PROUD OF IT!)
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