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Whacko. I leave it to you, fellow FReepers, to tear it up into bite-sized pieces for me. Guitarist
1 posted on 04/05/2005 12:47:14 PM PDT by guitarist
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Today, even Republicans like Representative Chris Shays concede that it has become the "party of theocracy."

Leave it to the Times to provide another unbalanced look at an issue.

2 posted on 04/05/2005 12:48:59 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: guitarist

This guy comes from the same cesspool as cynthia tucker--not worth reading or talking about.


3 posted on 04/05/2005 12:51:23 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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College faculties are overwhelmingly liberal because conservatives and libertarians keep forking over money to send their kids to these places.


4 posted on 04/05/2005 12:51:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Krugmania.

But look at the bright side. He's now apparently arguing that wildly disparate outcomes are not evidence of discrimination. LOL


5 posted on 04/05/2005 12:51:41 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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Well, this explains a question I've had for a long time:

Why is that most Birkenstock-wearing, pot-smoking, flag-burning, hybrid-driving, gun-fearing, crime-loving, freedom-hating, tax-increasing, atheistic, Darwinistic, pussies register Democrat while real men register Republican?

"Self-selection"


6 posted on 04/05/2005 12:55:20 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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The NY Times fails to register the fact that most scientists, physicists, and biologists are conservative in their political affiliation. Conservative does not mean fundamentalist Christian. He has set up a strawman argument and then argues that the Republicans are trying to establish a theocracy by misrepresenting the views of one Congressman.

This article is unworthy of the title of journalism.


7 posted on 04/05/2005 12:56:11 PM PDT by reallygone
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To: guitarist

Isn't it the liberals that assert that if a minority group is not proportionally represented in a profession, it's the result of racial discrimination that must be remedied with affirmative action?
But to some extent, there may be a degree of 'self selection' in the field of academics. Liberals are inclined to make life miserable for those who don't rubber stamp their ideology. I couldn't imagine choosing academia where even mentioning that one is Christian results in nonstop hate and villification. I only succeeded in completing college by knowing enough to contain my viewpoints, and I couldn't wait to get out.


8 posted on 04/05/2005 12:58:34 PM PDT by Spok
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There is an old canard, "those who can...do, those who can't...teach". In that manner, the NY Times may be correct. Since the liberals "can't do" they "teach".


9 posted on 04/05/2005 12:58:36 PM PDT by reallygone
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Keynes was right once and they crowned him god of economics. Ronald Reagan could show you on a cocktail napkin more about economics than John Maynard Keynes ever knew. Further, they should teach Hayek and von Mises over Keynes because Hayek and von Mises and Friedman and Sowell are the inheritors of Smith and Ferguson, and we are a capitalist nation. Let them teach Keynes and Marx in France.


10 posted on 04/05/2005 12:59:45 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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Those that can, do...those that can't...well, you know.


12 posted on 04/05/2005 1:01:59 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be attainable"- Albert Einstein)
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My brother in law is a professor at a major university and he is as Conservative as they come. He is in the sciences however so politics are not a big deal.
16 posted on 04/05/2005 1:13:42 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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Wow!!! Talk about incongruity!!

Krugman, NYT and Academic!!!!


17 posted on 04/05/2005 1:16:14 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Why is this surprising? Look it is also possible that a lower starting pay for college teaching does not match that of starting with corporations or lawyering. After all Republicans have better business heads and money does matter, so why should a smart Republican teach?


18 posted on 04/05/2005 1:20:46 PM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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Coincidentally, Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online completely deconstructs Krugturds arguement.

Link to the Krugturd deconstruction

19 posted on 04/05/2005 1:37:08 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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In a way we are still reaping the rewards of Vietnam. A large number of those in power today in academia got there by using education deferrals for advanced degrees to avoid the draft. (Others went into the clergy and private foundations.) Now this generation, in their fifties and sixties, is sitting atop the academic power structure. Tenure and promotion decisions in universities are highly subjective and are voted on by the tenured faculty of each particular field so it is, to some extent, a popularity contest. Friends help friends.

Whether the problems now evident in academia and the churches and the foundations will pass with the "Vietnam Generation" is the real question. I suppose it will be self-perpetuating for awhile but then the pendulum will swing back. We owe such a debt of gratitude to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson!


22 posted on 04/05/2005 1:59:00 PM PDT by caseinpoint ((IMHO))
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bttt


24 posted on 04/05/2005 2:00:25 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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And it wouldn't just be a matter of demanding that historians play down the role of slavery in early America

What conservative demands historians "play down the role of slavery?" I know of no slavery-deniers in the conservative movement, only those who plead for balance, context, and fairness in dealing with slavery. Nor do I know any conservative suggesting, no matter how remotely, that slavery wasn't wrong.
30 posted on 04/05/2005 2:46:04 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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Think of the message this sends: today's Republican Party - increasingly dominated by people who believe truth should be determined by revelation, not research - doesn't respect science, or scholarship in general. It shouldn't be surprising that scholars have returned the favor by losing respect for the Republican Party.

This from the corner of the 'earthmother gaia' crowd. I find the respect of most scholars irrelevant. They can go away, I and others like me are getting the job done.

Conservatives should be worried by the alienation of the universities; they should at least wonder if some of the fault lies not in the professors, but in themselves. Instead, they're seeking a Lysenkoist solution that would have politics determine courses' content.

As if politics has no influence on who gets grant money to do what research, and that if your conclusions (supported by the most stringent data) fly in the face of the politically correct consensus, you will get no more grant money.

Conservatives are not at fault, they did not select the professors.

36 posted on 04/05/2005 3:06:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Repeal the NFA of '34! the GCA of '68! and the '86 ban!)
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If the reason that conservatives are not proportionally represented on faculties is related to reasoning ability, would it not follow that the imbalance would be particularly notable in the fields that require the most reasoning ability - math, science and technical fields. In fact, these are the fields where there is the least discrimination against conservatives.

Krugman is a turd.

43 posted on 04/06/2005 5:11:50 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: guitarist
This guy is stereotyping -- as if all genuine scientists can not be religious, because science has the last word on the subject and the case against the existence of God is now definitely closed. Yes, science now knows all! More to the point, he is he showing his ignorance about the true intent of academics -- to lay bear the truth. And you won't do that by stereotyping! For whom is the Republican Party the 'party of theocracy'? For narrow minded fools who want to spew about how the academy should be by right the reserve of truth-loving, scientific Democrats! His last words are the most revealing about his politics and shows how politically biased he truly is. This is not an attempt to get at the truth but to paint everything with one brush stroke.
44 posted on 04/06/2005 10:02:23 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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