this needs to be supported
now make it retro-active, please.
Mike
How long do you think it will take before the Supremes or some wacky judge slaps this one down. This should have been done 50 years ago.
I love it---therefore it won't pass---
I just read an article yesterday that said that the ID law that passed the House requiring US citizenship proof for drivers licenses is sitting gathering dust somewhere and prolly will not be seen again...at least for a long time..
Face it folks, the House and the Senate do not have the "fortitude", "nerve", "integrity", whatever, to actually do anything about illegal immigration or anything related to it....(at least that is my impression)
We all need to contact out Representatives and Senators.
(Unfortunately my Senators are libs, so I'm screwed there. But, my Congressman is a very conservative Republican.)
Sounds good to me. I'm going to pull a "Ginsberg" here and ask what other country allows someone to just stop by and pop off a baby who then is automatically a citizen.
But my understanding is that the language of the 14th Amendment would be interpreted to prohibit this, since it has language stating that all persons born or naturalized here are citizens. That was drafted for a very different situation, of course, and I may not have all my facts. Thanks in advance to anyone who has more info.
"to deny citizenship at birth to children born in the United States of parents who are not citizens or permanent resident aliens"
Absolutely!!
It's common sense.
Bush would veto it.
I agree with this completely but guaranteed that this won't hold up to Constitutional scrutiny. You know the activist courts will all of a sudden be strict constructionists on this clause:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Add one thing and I'll support it. A child born out of wedlock where the father is a citizen. The kid shouldn't be penalized because some American didn't check the girl he's boffing for a green card
If the bill fails to get out of Congress, everyone will blame the President even if it dies in the Senate thanks to a 1/2 dozen RINOS like McCain. If the bill passes, the same people will claim Bush is against it but is signing it out of fear and will give all the credit to people like Tancredo.
It isn’t that easy. They are going to have to amend the Constitution since the Constitution is clear on this. Anybody born in the U.S. is a citizen of the United States. I would like to see an amendment change. As is though, it is not going to pass; or if it does, it will be thrown out by the Supremes as unconstitutional.
Hope it passes
Thanks guys...You just made my kids into non-americans...[/rolling eyes....
If you want to make it so that some people born here are not "natural born citizens" you have to amend the Constitution.
Amendment XIV, Section. 1., states:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
My guess is that it is unconstiturional. The Constitution does not specify parental status for native born children to qualify for automatic citizenship.
If this law had been in effect in say 1870, many of us would not be citizens now.
IMO a constitutional amendmend would be necessary to bring about the intent of this bill.
Get behind this folks - this is a critical legislation and these patriots who are attempting to stop the illegal alien invasion are under direct assault! Support them please.
NOTE: THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE DEMOCRAT SUPPORTING THIS ACT.
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H.R.698 (as ammended)
(click this link)Official Title: To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to deny citizenship at birth to children born in the United States of parents who are not citizens or permanent resident aliens.
Status: Introduced (By Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA]) Introduced: Feb 9, 2005 Last Action: Mar 2, 2005: Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims. Sponsor: Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA] Cosponsors: