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There is a force greater than ourselves.

Agreed. We are not arguing on this point. But to say science has proven this is premature and outright inaccurate. Maybe someday science will advance to the point where it can prove certain processes in nature to be too impossibly complex to be produced naturally, but it has not done that yet. At this point, we continue to discover how incredibly complex processes do result by natural means (i.e. chaos theory).

Even if an event is proven ridiculously unlikely to occur, this is all science can say about it. Any further supposition crosses the line to philosophy and/or faith. This is the limit of science, and why we need faith. The two complement each other, but overall knowledge is best served by keeping open discussion between the two while keeping the boundary between them clearly delineated (not always an easy thing to do).

(BTW, my opinion: God is the creator of natural laws, so purely natural processes do not preclude His involvement. Everything has a plan, from the fall of every raindrop to the explosion of distant stars.)

Maybe someday science will advance to the point where it can prove certain processes in nature to be too impossibly complex to be produced naturally, but it has not done that yet.

I'll not be holdin' me breath until that time though.....

I was an atheist in my youth and later gravitated to the God started it and billions of years later, voila.

However, as a born-again Christian, I began to realize that the foundations of most Christian doctrines (sin, death, disease, sacrifice, and so on) are based upon the first eleven chapters of Genesis.

For Christians who believe that Adam sinned and brought sin and corruption into the world, the time before Adam could not have been filled with death, destruction, disease, and violence. If Adam was the result of millions of years of death, disease, and evolution, the whole concept of the FALL makes no sense at all. Our faith would be based upon an illogical, nonsensical framework. Whence cometh sin?

Just something for Christians to consider.