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1 posted on 04/04/2005 10:11:49 AM PDT by robowombat
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For some very interesting info on these matters and related topics, read the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail". It's fascinating.


2 posted on 04/04/2005 10:14:31 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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Isn't it a little hard to write a book dangling from a rope by your neck?

A fool and his money......
4 posted on 04/04/2005 10:17:46 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: robowombat

There were two Judas'.

Joh 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?


5 posted on 04/04/2005 10:20:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: robowombat
Thirty other texts - some of which have been uncovered - were sidelined because "they were difficult to reconcile with what Constantine wanted as a political doctrine," according to Roberty.

Sounds like he's been drinking some of that Dan Brown Kool- Aid.
8 posted on 04/04/2005 10:26:04 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (When did Michael Schiavo hire Baghdad Bob to represent him?)
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To: robowombat

Judas' suicide note?


9 posted on 04/04/2005 10:26:16 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: robowombat

The Holy Bible influenced by the Emperor Constantine? Couldn't be - I've had so-called Christians spit in my face for suggesting that.


11 posted on 04/04/2005 10:27:43 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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The Roman Catholic Church limited the recognised gospels to the four in 325, under the guidance of the first Christian Roman emperor, Constantine.

New Age horsefeathers. The four canonical gospels were recognized long before 325, and Constantine had nothing to do with that decision.

Other parts of the New Testament canon were "in play" as late as AD 400, but not the Gospels, and not most of the Pauline epistles, either.

16 posted on 04/04/2005 10:35:39 AM PDT by Campion
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ping


24 posted on 04/04/2005 10:42:20 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (My flag is at half staff. Is yours?)
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"No one can clearly state that Judas wrote it himself," Roberty said,

Really? Kinda tough to write a gospel after hanging yourself.

35 posted on 04/04/2005 10:52:29 AM PDT by Raycpa
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The New Testament Books (canonical)

The scholarly literature on the New Testament books is (of course) huge and easily accessible. There is no attempt here to discuss them individually. Here is their approximate order of composition:

I and II Thessalonians

~50 CE

I and II Corinthians

54-56

Galatians

~56

Romans

56-57

Colossians

~61

Philemon

~61

Philippians

~62

Gospel according to Mark

65-70

Gospel according to Matthew

80-85

Acts and Gospel according to Luke

85-90

Hebrews

85-90

Gospel according to John

90-100

Revelation of John

~95

Ephesians, James, and I Peter

95-100

I, II, and III John

100-110

I and II Timothy and Titus

110-130

Jude, II Peter

130-150


42 posted on 04/04/2005 11:03:16 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Who said you can't make additions to accepted Church doctrine? As I recall there, was a certain German malcontent who took a whore-nun as a wife and lived on a diet of worms? A lot of people accept his teachings. There was also the Geneva Taliban and the 37 Articles of Faith.
The Church accepts the tales of 3 or 4 men who may or may not have been contemporaries of Christ yet rejects and denies the influence of a Persian religion that was quite possibly proto-Judaism.
The Bible is nothing more than the Hebrew interpretation of Norse mythos, Freya being Mary, Thor the Son of Odin and his nemesis, Loki as Satan, the god of deception.
43 posted on 04/04/2005 11:05:23 AM PDT by olde north church ("Hi America, I'm Dr. Howard Dean. Turn your head and cough.")
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Thirty other texts - some of which have been uncovered - were sidelined because "they were difficult to reconcile with what Constantine wanted as a political doctrine," according to Roberty.

Horse manure

Table of authorities.

44 posted on 04/04/2005 11:06:17 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Thirty other texts - some of which have been uncovered - were sidelined because "they were difficult to reconcile with what Constantine wanted as a political doctrine," according to Roberty.

Not this nonsense again.

46 posted on 04/04/2005 11:06:41 AM PDT by The Iguana
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Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus Christ by helping the Romans find him

Not exactly.

55 posted on 04/04/2005 11:15:57 AM PDT by wardaddy ("Finally!, A Man Worth Killing!")
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To: robowombat

Another hammer to be worn out pounding on the anvil of God - The Bible.


90 posted on 04/04/2005 12:13:06 PM PDT by free_life
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"According to Christian tradition, Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus Christ by helping the Romans to find him before he was crucified."

Revisionist.

91 posted on 04/04/2005 12:13:16 PM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: robowombat

Wasn't Judas so consumed by guilt he hanged himself?

When did he have time to write a gospel?


103 posted on 04/04/2005 1:20:40 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Rest in Peace, Holy Father)
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To: robowombat

What information are we burying in sealed containers?

In case the unthinkable does happen. Has anyone thought of burying a Rosetta stone of sorts for future generations (say, 4,000 years from now). Paper decays, electronic info is notorious for becoming unreadable (e.g., format changes - think Edison Cylinders). With modern technology, some etched metal should be relatively cheap.


116 posted on 04/04/2005 2:52:58 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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There are many, many gospels around. The strangest one I've read is the "Arabic Gospel of The Infancy" about Jesus' childhood. Google it and you can download the entire thing, it's about 10-15 pages and an amazing read.


119 posted on 04/04/2005 3:06:09 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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