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Schiavo neurologist views Alzheimer patients as physician-assisted "suicides"
CFP ^ | April 4, 2005 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 04/04/2005 6:33:25 AM PDT by MikeEdwards

Years before he categorized Terri Schindler Schiavo in the persistent vegetative state, which led to her death by dehydration, neurologist Dr. Ronald Cranford was building the case for removing feeding tubes from society’s vulnerable.

"…The United States has thousands or tens of thousands of patients in vegetative states; nobody knows for sure exactly how many," Cranford wrote in a 1997 Minneapolis Star Tribune opinion piece titled: When a feeding tube borders on the barbaric. (WorldNetDaily. Com, March 23, 2005). "But before long, this country will have several million patients with Alzheimer’s dementia. The challenges and costs of maintaining vegetative state patients will pale in comparison to the problems presented by Alzheimer’s disease.

"The answer, he suggested, was physician-assisted suicide."

Cranford blames the medical profession for society’s rush toward physician-assisted suicide…"our archaic responses to pain and suffering; our failure to accept death as a reality and an inevitable outcome of life; our inability to be realistic and humane in treating irreversibly ill people. All of this has shaken the public’s confidence in the medical profession."

Could it be no-food-no-water, white-coated doctors, propelled by right-to-die activism, that is shaking the public’s confidence in today’s medical profession?

Alleged to have participated in states like California without courtesy of a legal license, Cranfeld openly applauds European values that embrace euthanasia. Countries like Belgium, where experts believe that 10 percent of all deaths now result from euthanasia or by drugs administered by doctors to hasten death. . . . .


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alzheimer; assisted; euthanasia; killtheinconvenient; physician; schiavo; suicide; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Conspiracy Guy

LOL I always cracks me up when people take the time to click on the post and enter a comment that basically says, "Not interested." If you aren't interested, why waste the time to do that in the first place?


21 posted on 04/04/2005 1:45:24 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MikeEdwards
"The answer, he suggested, was physician-assisted suicide."

Jeez. But put panties on the heads of terrorist and all Hell breaks loose.

22 posted on 04/04/2005 1:46:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: hocndoc
A brand new category of human beings that are no longer "persons." Who's next?

Good question.

23 posted on 04/04/2005 1:51:48 PM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: MEGoody

It is a contrarian tact. I use it sometimes to lighten things up. Some understand that other's want to fight. The Schiavo case is far from over and much will be learned. But every thread doesn't have to be about Terri. I was on the Official Friday Silliness thread the other day and someone brought the case over there.

Hope I didn't offend you with the Auto Ignore.


24 posted on 04/04/2005 1:52:46 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: AppyPappy
My mother-in-law lives with us now. She has dementia caused by stroke (not Alzheimers). She can't ever tell you what happened 5 minutes ago. Was married 41 years to her departed husband and has no recollection of it. Does not know that my wife is her daughter, or what her name is. She's happy (content). Well fed... relatively healthy for a 74 year old. But she can't find her bedroom. And then once she finds it, she can't find the bathroom that is in it. Can't buckel a seatbelt. Can't dress herself without help to tell her which is a shirt and which are pants.

I mean... it is really really sad. A lifetime of taking pictures means absolutely nothing to her. And when we watched Finding Nemo... it took her an hour to figure out that it was a cartoon.... and not a real talking fish.

She stays during the day at an assisted living center and we pick her up in the evenings. When she has to go there fulltime someday, we've already signed the do-not-ressussiate papers. We can talk about the value of life and all that.... but I think that for those of us that are christians, we have to know when to let go and let them be with God. Where it's FAR FAR better anyway.

25 posted on 04/04/2005 1:53:36 PM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: MikeEdwards

Alzheimer’s is a disease that one gets by no fault of his own. If we are going to save money lets cut off funds to people who get Ill of their own doing such as Aids and smoking. Medical cost were not a proplem in this country until there was Aids.


26 posted on 04/04/2005 1:56:48 PM PDT by Ibredd
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To: Ibredd
Medical cost were not a proplem in this country until there was Aids.

That's a pretty silly statement.

27 posted on 04/04/2005 2:00:57 PM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: kjam22

Aids showed up in or about 85 I am sure there is a graff out there showing Medical costs for the last 50 years.


28 posted on 04/04/2005 2:04:45 PM PDT by Ibredd
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To: Ibredd

I just think in light of malpractice suits, new drugs, new treatments, longer lifespans, better care, more longterm care, more elderly, aids, alzheimers, inflation... and everything else that effects medical costs... well to blame it all on aids is pretty silly. Keep in mind, I don't have aids, and I dont' know anybody that does... so it's not big issue for me. I just think your statement was pretty silly thinking.


29 posted on 04/04/2005 2:09:17 PM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: kjam22

Agreed. Lawyers and juries put it where it is.


30 posted on 04/04/2005 2:10:36 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

In case you hadn't noticed, every thread isn't about Terri.

Be happy.


31 posted on 04/04/2005 2:12:43 PM PDT by k2blader (If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
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To: kjam22

Just the costs of the rubber gloves every fireman every doctor and or nurse has to put on before they can even touch someone sence aids could pay off the national debt


32 posted on 04/04/2005 2:12:49 PM PDT by Ibredd
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To: Ibredd
Just the costs of the rubber gloves every fireman every doctor and or nurse has to put on before they can even touch someone sence aids could pay off the national debt

LOL

33 posted on 04/04/2005 2:14:14 PM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: MikeEdwards

Dr. Cranford was Nancy Cruzan's dr. also and talked her parents into taking away her feeding tube and it took her 12 days to die. The father, Mr. Cruzan committed SUICIDE the day beofre Terri Schiavo died!!! He must have felt so damn guilty.


34 posted on 04/04/2005 2:14:19 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: k2blader

I am happy.


35 posted on 04/04/2005 2:15:26 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: silverleaf

Mike Schiavo used Dr. Cranford because of what I just posted about Nancy Cruzan and her starving to death.....and her father committing suicide.


36 posted on 04/04/2005 2:16:06 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kjam22

much less the prescription that was 25.00 in 85 is now some 500.00 so we can have R&D funds to cure Aids.


37 posted on 04/04/2005 2:19:15 PM PDT by Ibredd
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To: Ibredd
"Medical cost were not a proplem in this country until there was Aids".

Medical costs in this country weren't a problem before socialism took hold.

38 posted on 04/04/2005 2:26:27 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Conspiracy Guy
"It is a contrarian tact. I use it sometimes to lighten things up."

Well, it worked. It made me laugh.

39 posted on 04/04/2005 2:51:08 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

I'm glad. It has been so tense lately.


40 posted on 04/04/2005 2:53:58 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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