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RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS SEEK THEIR OWN 'ACTIVIST' JUDGES
Yahoo! News (April 3, 2005) ^ | Sat Apr 2, 8:25 PM ET | Cynthia Tucker

Posted on 04/03/2005 6:42:45 PM PDT by Gondring

Friends of Florida judge George Greer describe him as a low-key conservative Christian, a Republican, a family man, a dog lover. Appellate courts have found over and over again that Greer simply followed the law in deciding a sad and controversial case. But for that sin, the Pinellas County Circuit Court judge was invited out of his Southern Baptist Church.

Cynthia Tucker
Cynthia Tucker

 

Apparently, Greer's critics, including his pastor, didn't like his rulings in the Terri Schiavo case, which landed in his courtroom in 1998. They wanted him to be an activist judge -- a jurist who ignored the law and ruled according to the passions of a group of partisans.

Ultraconservatives want you to believe the term "activist judge" applies to a group of determined liberals whose rulings have overturned historic precedent, undermined morality and defied common sense. But the controversy that erupted around Schiavo, who died on Thursday, ought to remind us once and for all what "activist judge" really means: a jurist whose rulings dissatisfy a right-wing political constituency.

Over the next few months, you'll hear the term "activist judge" often as President Bush nominates justices to the U.S. Supreme Court. The president could end up appointing as many as four. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, 80, is ailing with cancer; John Paul Stevens is also an octogenarian. Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg are cancer survivors in their 70s.

With so many likely vacancies, ultraconservatives see an opportunity to drive from the bench any semblance of fealty to the law or the U.S. Constitution. They claim that judges have become the tool of an outlandish liberal fringe that has violated the graves of the Founding Fathers. When right-wing talk-show hosts and U.S. senators denounce judicial activism, they conjure up images of jurists who terrorize the God-fearing, coddle criminals and would -- according to one crazed campaign memo passed around during last year's presidential campaign -- outlaw the Bible.

The next time you hear those claims, think of Judge Greer, whose politics tilt to the right. He is among the targets of ultraconservative ire.

For that matter, think of the current Supreme Court -- hardly a bastion of liberalism. Its justices declined to intervene in the Schiavo case because they could find no legitimate reason to do so.

While the rift between Michael Schiavo and his in-laws, Bob and Mary Schindler, is depressing, family conflict is almost a way of life in America. Courts are called upon often to settle family disputes over money, children and property. Florida law makes clear that a spouse has the right to decide end-of-life issues, and, after testimony from several people, Greer upheld Schiavo's claim that his wife didn't want to be kept alive through artificial means.

It is perfectly understandable that the Schindlers were unhappy with his ruling. As grieving parents, they wanted to believe, contrary to the judgment of several physicians, that their daughter might one day be miraculously restored.

But the attacks on the judiciary by the Schindlers' supporters -- including an attempted end-run by an activist Congress -- made it clear that a minority of religious extremists have no respect for the law and no understanding of the separation of powers on which this government was founded.

Among those who missed their high school civics class, apparently, were Congress and the president. In one of many rulings turning down the Schindlers' request for intervention, an Atlanta federal court judge chastised the executive and legislative branches for overreaching.

"Congress chose to overstep constitutional boundaries into the province of the judiciary. Such an act cannot be countenanced," wrote Judge Stanley Birch, who was appointed by former President George H.W. Bush. Hardly a liberal activist.

The current President Bush has already made clear that his idea of a model chief justice is Clarence Thomas, who has no respect for judicial precedent. But even Thomas might not satisfy the extremists who chastise Judge Greer. They will be satisfied with nothing less than a judiciary steeped in the same narrow religious views they want to impose on the nation.


Cynthia Tucker is editorial page editor for The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. She can be reached by e-mail: cynthia@ajc.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cary; hysterria; judicialactivism; liberalnutcase; religiousbigot
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To: Tax Government
Terri's plight crossed all barriers: political, racial and religious.

What does this gal think people like Lani Davis - about as nasty a liberal as they come; Joe Lieberman; etc etc are?

This is a HUMAN issue, not a republican or democrat or black or white.

They don't get it yet. Their backwards spin works against them as much as for them these days as they no longer control the media.

They're behind the curve

261 posted on 04/03/2005 8:39:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: writer33

C'mon, that's not even true. If Religious Right has a negative connotation for you, think of another term. There are those for whom the moral/social aspects of life are completely inseparable from their spiritual/religious views.

Some people are put off by the "religious right" whether through guilt, a different belief system or whatever.

Personally, I don't have any issue with people who are very strident in their faith. I do have issue with people who use symbolism over substance - people like Randall Terry. Parents who stage "made for TV" arrests of their children.


262 posted on 04/03/2005 8:40:36 PM PDT by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: stands2reason
That's true, so in cases where the family is in agreement there is no news and so no argument?

Can you name one person other than Terri who is on a feeding tube?

Can you show me one thread for anyone other than Terri who has been removed from any medical device that kept them alive?

I guess my point is, if so many feel this way here on FR then someone, anyone should be able to name one name out of a possible 35,000 to 40,000 people with feeding tubes that may get pulled.
263 posted on 04/03/2005 8:42:49 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
I was merely trying to point put how some could support Terri's bill and not Gay marriage.

You've got to be kidding.
What does a perverse dysfunctional sex fetish have to do with saving the life of an innocent woman? It's like comparing dog poop to peanut butter !

264 posted on 04/03/2005 8:43:33 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Again, I am not stating a preference here

Take a stand, then. Be brave.

My stand: I abhor the ethics taking root in America today whereby callous doctors, nurses, and judges are taking it upon themselves to decide whose life should be cut short on utilitarian grounds. I doubly abhor the killing of innocent, helpless human beings by forced starvation and dehydration.

265 posted on 04/03/2005 8:44:42 PM PDT by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: JCEccles
So this would justify absolutely no mention of any others?

Can you name one person?
266 posted on 04/03/2005 8:44:44 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
The first impeachment petition I saw for Greer was three or four years ago.

Florida has a new one started and it's doing quite well. Maybe it'll work this time.

267 posted on 04/03/2005 8:45:13 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Doohickey

I didn't know we had to create terms with people that are strident in their faith. I certainly have no problem with "those people," tagging them as if they were cattle with diseases.

First of all, they're Americans. And like I said, there is no difference between people of faith. We all live under the same moral guidance. But there's always people ready to disagree. No biggy.


268 posted on 04/03/2005 8:46:40 PM PDT by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: JCEccles

I understand that, but can you name one thread or one person deserving mention other then Terri? Not to downplay her situation by any means.


269 posted on 04/03/2005 8:46:45 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne

Mention them. You know my stand.


270 posted on 04/03/2005 8:47:11 PM PDT by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: Gondring
RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS SEEK THEIR OWN 'ACTIVIST' JUDGES

"Religious extremist" is left-wing codespeak for "anyone who believes in God and doesn't hide it under a basket." And the "activist judges" they seek are those who will read, understand, and most importantly, obey the Constitution. That's what constitutes judicial activism from the Right.

271 posted on 04/03/2005 8:47:42 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: concerned about politics

You would have to go back and follow the posts. I am not the one who brought it up. and I don't think the poster who did bring it up meant for it to be in the context of the entire thread. The way I read it- it was a side issue of conflicitng support for a law to protect one person Terri vrs. the non support of a law for Gay Marriage.I am not the one who thought there was a conflict.


272 posted on 04/03/2005 8:48:34 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: TheForceOfOne

What in the world is your problem? What IS the point that you are so desperate to make but seem unable or unwilling to articulate?


273 posted on 04/03/2005 8:48:53 PM PDT by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: JCEccles
You can't answer my question.

This is not about whether you or I agree, it is me asking you why no others deserve mention.
274 posted on 04/03/2005 8:49:56 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne
I guess my point is, if so many feel this way here on FR then someone, anyone should be able to name one name out of a possible 35,000 to 40,000 people with feeding tubes that may get pulled.

Ah! The tactics change! Now that you can't argue on the "government expansion angle," you change to the "why not others" angle. The same argument the left made for Iraq (Well, if we're going to liberate, shouldn't we be doing Iran or North Korea?).

As I pointed out to you, the reason none of those other cases have any posts about them is because they don't involve a massive increase in government power (one of the stated reasons for FR's existence). So your question is answered again. We are discussing it because this case raises an issue no other case does. Now where do you stand?

275 posted on 04/03/2005 8:50:29 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Still teaching... or a reasonable facsimile thereof...)
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To: TheForceOfOne
What is the point of your question?

Quit being mealy-mouthed and get on with it, for heaven's sake.

276 posted on 04/03/2005 8:51:12 PM PDT by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: writer33

I'm not trying to label you, I'm trying to make it easier to discourse. Instead of using terms like "Bible-thumper" or "CINO", y'know?


277 posted on 04/03/2005 8:52:54 PM PDT by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: wingman1
why would Mrs. Schindler "flat out lie" (to use your words) about her age when she said these things?

She didn't just lie about the age she lied about the conversation taking place at all. She tried to create the conversation from wishful thinking and her limited knowledge of the Quinlan case.

278 posted on 04/03/2005 8:52:54 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: JCEccles

I am not asking you to state your position about God or Terri, I know where you stand from what I gather. I want to know why no others rise to the level of Terri on this board.


279 posted on 04/03/2005 8:53:13 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: JCEccles

Note my answer (which he ignored) in post #237. He's just trying out a new tactic. The reasons for this case are clear, and it is unique (as even Terri's enemies in the MSM admit). So he's trying to avoid argument here...


280 posted on 04/03/2005 8:53:32 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Still teaching... or a reasonable facsimile thereof...)
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