Posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter
Freeper friends, Terri's Memorial Service is this coming Tuesday night in Gulfport, Florida. Please check and see if www.baynews9.com will carry it on the internet.
I'm still sad and in disbelief that the rescue fell apart. It was on it's way. We were waiting there for ambulances but instead two Sheriff's cruisers arrived.
There's much work to do. There are many work groups here carrying on for Terri.
The April Daily Thread as before will be a meeting place, a news digest and even in the midst of sorrow, a place to make friends.
I want to thank everyone who did everything humanly possible for Terri and her family. Terri's safe now from a room with the blinds closed, strange people and armed guards. She'd still be here if it wasn't for judicial despots who it appears have never read the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. or Florida Constitution.
Freepers, Republicans and Democrats alike voted against Terri or didn't do enough to save her from Judge Greer.
I'd like to thank Ralph Nader, David Boies, Joe Lieberman and Wesley Smith, Phd, author of Forced Exit.
I have disdain for the Naughty Nine Republicans in the Florida Senate who vote "No" which barred Terri from legislative relief. The GOP House Members who voted "No" on Terri, shame on them too.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE AGENDA AND WHO IS IN CHARGE? I'm afraid that Judge George Greer is in charge - of everything.
PLEASE HELP FLORIDA... CALL YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN.
HELP US. We feel stranded by tyranny today, but Florida is ripe for change. We will demand it together as Americans.
Thanks, FV
The Empire Journal
Schiavo Tangled Web of Deception, Corruption Part II
http://www.theempirejournal.com/504052_schiavo_tangled_web_of_de.htm
So many terrible things are going on in Florida. It seems as if the state is filled with evil.
We must all pray for the girl and her pre-born baby.
I now need SEVEN volunteers for a google type research project. If you are interested or know someone who's good at research, pls freepmail me. Please ping your lists. Thanks, FV
Hurray for Glenn Beck. I will send him a fan letter. Everyother day I google for articles regarding Terri Schiavo and send responses to ill-informed and ill-written articles. Lately, all the articles are only mentioning Terri Schiavo in relation to something else. She and her circumstances need to stay in the media.
additionally you can also go to:
news.google.com
and search under schiavo if it's not on the front page
I am posting an excerpt from World Net Daily's Joseph Farah re: Greer's Former Pastor at Calvary Baptist Church
Greer, until recently, was a member of the Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater, Fla. He left at the urging of Pastor William Rice, who counseled him wisely: "You must know that in all likelihood it is this case which will define your career and this case that you will remember in the waning days of life. I hope you can find a way to side with the angels and become an answer to the prayers of thousands."
Rice has my highest regard for that decision. Too many pastors in this country don't require obedience to God as a prerequisite for church membership. They seem to believe in a kind of "cheap" grace that comes with regular attendance or tithing rather than a Christian walk. They seem to have no minimal standards for fellowship and communion with the saints.
There are few heroes in the Terri Schiavo scandal. Her parents and siblings qualify. Terri herself qualifies. Those who braved arrest to bring her cups of water qualify. And, in my book, so does Rev. William Rice.
Do you want to know why the church doesn't have influence and impact in our increasingly secular world today?
Because there are too many so-called Christians like Judge George Greer and not enough like Pastor William Rice.
Greer's friends have attacked the church and defended the judge, saying he was interpreting the law to the best of his ability. However, if that is true, then Greer, as a Christian, had a duty to obey God's laws rather than man's laws. That would require him to leave the bench if he truly saw a conflict. Instead, Greer opted to leave his church and, presumably, his weak faith.
"Like evangelicals across the world, we are horrified at the thought that a handicapped woman could be, in effect, starved to death before a watching world," Rice wrote. Admitting he was not a legal or medical expert, Rice asserted: "I know right from wrong. I know what God thinks about human life. I know there is only one way to describe the prospect of starving a woman to death because she cannot feed herself. It is wrong."
Rice continued: "Morality and truth must serve as our guide. Terri Schiavo is not on life support. She is not dying. Good evidence exists to suggest that she is responsive. All she receives is food and water, the same as you and me. Are we to conclude that she is less than human because she cannot feed herself? Can a month-old child feed himself? Is an elderly patient stricken with some debilitating disease and unable to feed herself suddenly less human? Do we now use an IQ test to determine if someone possesses the right to live? Isn't that God's choice? Only God can give life, and only He should take it away."
"Tread carefully if you think this is simply about a dying woman being allowed to die peacefully," Rice wrote. "Remember when we were told that Roe v. Wade was simply about helping women who had been raped or whose lives were imminently threatened? Today, few abortions fall into that category, but millions of human lives have been sacrificed upon the altar of selfishness. And the slide down the slippery slope continues."
In case Greer was still confused, his pastor gave him more to think about.
"This case seems complex, but it is as simple as four words: 'Thou shalt not kill.' If you need a compass for this complex case, you'll find it there," he wrote. "As we all know, the Sixth Commandment means it is wrong to murder to take the life of an innocent person without just cause. If I were the nurse in that hospice center and the directive were given to me to discontinue feeding a living human being and watch as he or she starved to death, I couldn't do it. I'd rather get fired, resign or do something else."
Christians can go on blaming others for the problems we face in this country. Or we can go into the churches and start cleaning up the messes we have in our own houses of worship. It's time to take back the churches. It's time to renew the idea of standards. It's time to make church membership mean something again.
Judge George Greer did the wrong thing. Pastor William Rice did the right thing. If we had more pastors like Rice, we'd have fewer judges like Greer.
March 31, 2005 WND
Many in the media has deliberately misstated facts about Terri's case. It is interesting that the Schindler's ME was not allowed access to Terri.
Michael Schiavo wanted to keep Terri's burial from her parents - just one of this many nasty acts that reveal he is a sociopath.
"I know her own mother didn't. She was interviewed, and said in so many words: she made a mistake, she must learn the consequences, and you just don't take an innocent life. HER OWN MOTHER IS POWERLESS AGAINST THE STATE'S DEATH MACHINE .. JUST LIKE TERRI .. THERE IS EVIL EVERYWHERE IN FLORIDA ANYMORE."
I hadn't followed this story that close. I didn't know her own mother was against the abortion. I wonder if the state is even allowing the mother to talk to her daughter about the consequences of having an abortion. I bet the mother is being kept away from her daughter.
Just received this, there is protest planned!
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Unfortunately, according to the newspaper article I've attached to the bottom of the page, he is being honored with a very distinctive award, on Thursday night (May 5, 2005) mainly for the way he handled the Terri Schiavo case. On hearing this news, a small group of us in Tampa, Florida are organizing a protest outside of the Heritage Springs Golf and County Club in New Port Richey, FL. We are told that the ceremony will begin at 6:00 so we are recommending all Schiavo supporters to arrive around 5 with signs. All Christian radio stations in the area are being contacted. We ask that you please support us in this cause. Please tell all of your people who are in favor of impeaching Judge Greer to be there. The address is listed below, as well as the newspaper article.
Thank you very much.
Heritage Springs Golf and Country Club
11345 Robert Trent Jones Parkway
New Port Richey, FL
http://pasco.tbo.com/pasco/MGBHNYJW78E.html
Florida's elderly and disabled who have not been indoctrinated to believe they aren't worth much want to live and they are afraid thanks to the complete failure to rescue Terri.
The big politicos must be protected at all costs.
Very weak indeed, Jeb!
Shame on you.
Fr. Pavone Repeats Description of Judge Greer as 'Murderer'
5/4/2005 9:23:00 AM
To: National and State Desks
Contact: Jerry Horn of Priests for Life, 540-785-4733
WASHINGTON, May 4 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Fr. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, responded today to the announcement that Judge George Greer will receive the "Special Justice Award" tomorrow in Florida.
"On the night before Terri Schiavo died, I said to the national media that Judge Greer was a murderer. I repeat that today. I use the word not in its legal meaning but in its moral meaning, that is, a deliberate action or series of actions that intentionally kill an innocent person. Terri was not dying until she stopped receiving food and water. Once deprived of that sustenance, she died. It does not require any legal or medical expertise to recognize that as murder. Nobody who has lost the basic capability to understand that should be honored.
"Whatever judgment, furthermore, is made on Judge Greer's legal authority to do what he did, no Court has the moral authority to directly and deliberately take innocent life, and those ordered to carry out such decisions are morally obliged to resist them by conscientious objection. Pope John Paul II made that teaching clear in his encyclical letter 'The Gospel of Life.'"
Other religious leaders, including Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace at the Vatican, have described this tragedy in similar terms, as have countless Americans.
For more information, see http://www.priestsforlife.org
http://www.usnewswire.com/
Flow chart please!!!
Yikes!
God bless Frank Pavone.
Thanks for the update.
George Felos Attorney, Right-to-Die Expert & Author
Program Title - The Terri Schiavo Saga: From Family Fight to Constitutional Crisis
http://www.rothtalent.com/speakers/slist/Felos/
Amen to that good post.
I noticed that on a film clip of him walking next to
the murderous Michael Schiavo. He truly does.
How special to go get a make over, once one has been paid nearly a half million to "off" another person.
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