Terri Schiavo Autopsy Completed [Michael Ordered By Court to Disclose Burial Site To Family!!]

CNN ^ | 4/3/05 | CNN

[Daisy4]

Terri Schiavo autopsy completed Her parents, husband planning separate funeral arrangements Saturday, April 2, 2005 Posted: 1540 GMT (2340 HKT) http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/04/02/schiavo.ap

TAMPA, Florida (AP) -- The autopsy of Terri Schiavo has been completed, and the body is ready for release to her husband, who plans to cremate her remains and bury the ashes in an unspecified family plot.

Results from the autopsy, which was completed Friday, will not be released for several weeks, according to the medical examiner's office.

Michael Schiavo has said he hopes the autopsy will settle questions about his wife's medical condition, but experts differ on whether that will happen. He declined to comment Friday.

Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and Michael Schiavo spent Friday planning separate funerals for the 41-year-old woman, who died Thursday -- nearly two weeks after her feeding tube was removed

Michael Schiavo's family has said he plans to take the cremated remains to Pennsylvania, where Terri Schiavo grew up, but her parents and siblings had wanted to bury her body in Florida so they can visit her grave.

David Gibbs, the Schindlers' attorney, said there have been no further discussions between the two parties about the remains. The Schindlers do not plan to press the issue in court, he said.

"The court has already determined that (Michael Schiavo) will control the burial decisions," Gibbs said.

Michael Schiavo's brother, Scott Schiavo, had said Thursday that the Schindlers might not be informed of the burial location near Philadelphia because his family did not want to turn it into a media spectacle.

However, Michael Schiavo has been ordered by the court to disclose the location of the burial site to the family and inform them of any memorial service he plans.

[supercat]

Legally, he was her husband, and had all rights as such. No matter what you think. It's what the law thinks that matters.

A crucial component of recognizing the sanctity of contracts is the recognition that a breach of a contract by one party frees the other party of obligations.

When Michael violated and openly renounced his marriage contract with Terri, that should have ended any obligations she had to him and any authority he had over her. To say otherwise is to impugn the integrity of marriage as a contract.

[mlc9852]

Are you familiar with the statute of frauds concerning oral contracts? Which trumps - oral or written? If I tell my doctors, family, friends what my end-of-life wishes are and they all agree that's what I said, there probably wouldn't be a problem in court. However, if, after I have been incapacitated for seven years,and it is discovered by husband is living with another woman, is he to be believed against all others in a court of law? Is that what you believe the English common law is?

[rmgatto]

Usage Note: Fact has a long history of usage in the sense “allegation of fact,” as in “This tract was distributed to thousands of American teachers, but the facts and the reasoning are wrong” (Albert Shanker). This practice has led to the introduction of the phrases true facts and real facts, as in The true facts of the case may never be known. These usages may occasion qualms among critics who insist that facts can only be true, but the usages are often useful for emphasis.

American Heritage fourth ed.

Semantics--I happen to think a fact is true and other usages can lead to ambiguity, as here. In any event we agree that this case is full of lies and half truths.

[supercat]

So written declarations of wishes not to be abused before death are to be regarded, but oral ones are not? Is that your point?

Wishes that are expressed in authenticable tangible medium should be regarded. Acceptable media would include handwritten documents, notarized printed douments, camera-original analog videotaped statements, camera-original motion picture films (most likely using sign language, cue cards, etc. since super8 sound film isn't made any more--only silent), etc. Wishes which are not expressed in tangible authenticable media should not be accepted if they would contradict a defalt presumption of life and there is any reason whatsoever to doubt their veracity.

Am I to suppose you also favor repealing the 400 years of Anglo Saxon common law which enforces oral contracts as well as written?

Oral contracts are only enforceable if both parties agree and continue to agree about what was said and what was meant. An oral party cannot be enforced if either party disagrees or is unavailable.

[Racehorse]

I gather from your story your brain-injured friend is very much alive:-)

The last time I saw him, he surely was.  :-)

[Racehorse]

I happen to think a fact is true and other usages can lead to ambiguity, as here.

In some circumstances, creating the ambiguity is called quibbling.  Such, I assure you, was not my intent.  Spokespeople and lawyers for both sides earn their bread and butter trading on it.

In any event we agree that this case is full of lies and half truths.

We absolutely do agree.

[Jrabbit]

Terri went to mass the afternoon before she was "injured"

One is Catholic if born into a Catholic family? You're not Catholic, are you? If so, you better look that up.

Of course she was in heaven. Kind of you to acknowledge that, at least.

Terri received last rites. Her family requested a mass before her body was cremated. HINO refused. The family ended up winning that one.

A lock of hair in remembrance. It has nothing to do with the Catholic faith or relics. But it does have everything to do with Mikey being in control. IMO

[R. Scott]

Isn't there a time and place for protesting, such as the intentional starvation and dehydration of someone who can't speak for herself?

A silent vigil would have been more appropriate outside a hospice facility than the screaming circus atmosphere that took place. I have respect for the dying. Apparently that mob had no respect.

Let me ask you - if you yourself had been in a position to save Terri's life, would you have?

I can only answer as to what I would want if I had been in her position. I can imagine no more terrible a torture than to be trapped in a body without the ability to interact at will with others. I have a living will and a medical power of attorney that (I hope) will insure that I will never be in her position.
As to President and Governor Bush not stepping outside the law to intercede – I would have lost respect for them if they had done so.

[daybreakcoming]

So ironic - the so-called winnner will have to follow darkness while looking over his shoulder. Idiot. I really don't think MS had the personal strength to follow through with what he did - I think Felos and his crowd had their tenacles in him.

[R. Scott]

Catchin' on yet?

Sorry, I guess my Christian upbringing got in the way.
So now hatred is good, forgiveness is bad?

[mlc9852]

Please show me the law that says a probate judge can order the intentional starvation and dehydration (including any water or food, not just by tube) of an incapacitated person. I believe you may projecting your own misgivings about end-of-life issues onto Terri's situation.

[FairOpinion]

I also don't think the ME is going to determine anything.

I just found another article:

" The examiner’s office had said it would conduct routine examinations and look for any evidence of what might have caused her 1990 collapse."


http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Apr/20050403News023.asp


"Routine examinations" clearly mean they are not going to try to do anything, beyond the bare minimum.

[queenkathy]

She was his wife and he can do what he believes were her wishes as he pleases. Do you want some outsider or the government telling your spouse what to do with your carcass?Hmmm. My "carcass"

[queenkathy]

I heard a Priest say today that the Catholic church has changed it's stance on cremation. As long as the ashes aren't "spread" around.

[Treader]

Interesting... now you make the peripatetic jump from human condition to unbiased faith. Please re-read my post to you- perhaps you will notice the inclusionary term of "unjust hate." If an "Ethics 101" is in order, please submit your request.

[Ritima]

Does anyone out there know of a way to get Mark Furman involved? He certainly did a tremendous job in getting Michael Skakel convicted. I would like to see Mark uncover the truth about why Terri collapsed, and why Michael Schiavo so desperately wanted her dead.

[JoethePirate]

He doesn't want any lingering evidence of any kind around.

What kind of information can you get from ashes?

[Freedom Dignity n Honor]

"It was her father who started the litigations at first."

Well, DUH! What parent wouldn't "start the litigations first" in order to save a child from a dastardly husband bent on murdering his wife in a most foul way?

Sheesshhhh!

[JoethePirate]

He did plenty of that before he shacked up with Ms. Centonze in or around 1995. No one has really even objected to his serial adultry.

Evidence?

[Lesforlife]

Smacks of Terri as chattel. Has the potential to set the "women's
movement" back a hundred years!