Canada's Corruption Scandal Breaks Wide Open

Captains Quarter ^ | 03/02/05 | Captains Quarters

[JudyinCanada]

You are so right.

Why did they even bother to ban anything?

Canadians don't care.

They know the liberals are a corrupt bunch of mobsters. They don't care....just pay for my day-care and health-care and give me a GST rebate and I'm all yours.

And don't forget the formula up here.

IMMIGRANTS = LIBERALS for at least ten generations. Don't learn the language and don't ask questions. Just pay your taxes and keep voting us in. That way you will be guaranteed your whole family entrance into our country.

Ping to Allan.

[Allan]

I've lived up here for 6 years and I can't believe how passive they are, but it's true.

Canadians:
not human
nor even
sub-human
and
neither animal
nor vegetable
but rather
walking blobs
of lifeless
formless
brainless protoplasm

[Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...]

Stunning how the population on both sides of the border take scandals of the utmost depths of disgust in stride with nothing more than a sigh and a yawn - 'they're politicians, they're supposed to be crooked and they all do it' and so on..... Steyn had a great article a while back on another Liberal scandal in the making, frankly a far more serious one - I've told it to lots of folks, written lots of MPs to investigate it, sent links to the media and so on. I've never heard a whiff of it anywhere outside of right here on FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342935/posts

What's that about people getting the government they deserve? I guess if no one pays attention, is just plain apathetic and has such low expectations, this is the result. Yup, we got what we deserve and it's hard to find a soul who give two flying you-know-whats about it.

[Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...]

Stunning how the population on both sides of the border take scandals of the utmost depths of disgust in stride with nothing more than a sigh and a yawn - 'they're politicians, they're supposed to be crooked and they all do it' and so on..... Steyn had a great article a while back on another Liberal scandal in the making, frankly a far more serious one - I've told it to lots of folks, written lots of MPs to investigate it, sent links to the media and so on. I've never heard a whiff of it anywhere outside of right here on FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342935/posts

What's that about people getting the government they deserve? I guess if no one pays attention, is just plain apathetic and has such low expectations, this is the result. Yup, we got what we deserve and it's hard to find a soul who give two flying you-know-whats about it.

[Heartofsong83]

That was all about the Fiberals trying to buy votes in Quebec (where the opposition was concentrated, the rest of Canada was actually slightly in favor of BMD)

[Heartofsong83]

Sadly, that seems to be right. I have no idea why, because they are the party that treats them the worst...

[goldstategop]

These revelations have destroyed what's Left of the federal Liberals standing in French Canada. It may well do the same in English Canada. What emerges is the picture of a party that broke the law in the name of saving the country and they did it not for high minded idealistic reasons but to keep themselves in power. Through a slush fund and kickbacks to the ruling party's coffers. All through Ad-scam, the Government kept Parliament completely in the dark. No wonder the Liberals are panicked by the Gomery revelations - they should be forced to disband in disgrace like the Saskatchewan Progressive Conservative Party was after a similiar pattern of corruption reaching to the highest levels of the Government in that Province.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Heartofsong83]

That would be a dream come true, but it would have one interesting side effect: how would you want the NDP as the official opposition, since they'd probably snare votes off the left wing...it would also create a gaping hole among the 'progressives' and at center-left, since their choices would be the right-wing Conservatives, the left-wing NDP, a fringe party or staying home...

That Saskatchewan PC Party implosion may have had a silver lining - it opened the door for the new Saskatchewan Party, which is really their version of the Conservative Party - without the word 'progressive' and mostly pure conservatives...

[Col Freeper]

Anybody know what a snap election is in Canada, and what benefit it gives the liberal government?

[goldstategop]

The Prime Minister can ask the Governor General to drop the writ any time he thinks its advantageous to his party's prospects of winning. A lot of Canadians think calling a snap election is an unfair surprise and elections should be held on a fixed basis and not just when its convenient for the ruling party. Ontario Province has already adopted fixed elections.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Heartofsong83]

Snap election - when the governing party (in this case the Liberals) calls an election suddenly and early because they are very high in the polls. That is an undemocratic tactic that should not be allowed; terms should be fixed at 4 years (if a government falls on a vote of non-confidence, the individual MP's, but not the Prime Minister, should be put back up for by-elections - in which case Paul Martin could theoretically be leading a house with a Conservative majority)

[goldstategop]

I think it would be good to see an honest Left rather than a corrupt one. The NDP won't get far in Canada because they're viewed as "too socialist." Add to that the fact the other leftist party, the Bloc Quebecois is limited by a regional appeal, and the Conservatives stand to benefit handsomely. A United Left is the Canadian Left's worst nightmare.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Heartofsong83]

British Columbia also has fixed election dates.

I think the fixed date should be nationally set and used for all levels of government; my preferred date would be the 2nd Monday in May (to allow for a fresh fall session) or the 3rd Monday in November (to allow a fall of campaigning before returning in January, and to keep it off the US election week and Remembrance Day)

[Heartofsong83]

Yeah that's correct, and often that is what happens (while definitely left-leaning - although not as far left as the federal NDP which is definitely socialist, the Manitoba NDP government has been pretty much free of scandal and corruption) - of course, that does not take into account the British Columbia NDP scandals of the 1990s - however, that happened to the right-wing Social Credit party (now pretty much defunct) as well...

[goldstategop]

A possible reform would be to elect the Prime Minister at large, separate from other MPs as in the Israeli experiment a couple of years ago. To avoid PM's always coming from Quebec and to address the problem of Western alienation, the rules should be changed to require a PM to have support from at least seven of the twelve Canadian political divisions (Provinces And Territories) including support in at least one of the Big Two - Ontario and Quebec. This would create a larger pool of potential PM candidates and force them to appeal across the country rather than just pandering to Quebec. It would build national unity.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[WestVirginiaRebel]

Canada is mostly useless space with most of the people stretched across the border. They call themselves a country so they can get away without paying our government any taxes.

[TimeLord]

[To be spoken w/sad, puppy-dog eyes & lip a-quivering]:
"But, but, but, but, I thought Canada was a crime-free Socialist paradise!"

[Cdnexpat]

When the PM wishes to, or is forced to, disolve his government he goes to the Governor General and announces his intention to do so. The GG then asks the leader of the opposition if he can form a government. If he can do so and choses to do so there is no election. The opposition leader forms a government. This is actually possible here as the Tories and Bloc together would have a majority of seats in the house. While this is unlikely it is still a possiblity. Most people think the opposition parties will go for an election hoping to pick up seats but they may choose to form a coalition government instead. All the parties are holding emergency meetings this weekend to decide what to do.

[Col Freeper]

All: Thanks for the responses/descriptions. I have my fingers crossed that the leftist Canadian government will fall, just like the Clinton one did in this country.

[Liberal_Lies]

Canada: Where even the Conservatives are liberal