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Professor's sudden dismissal stuns students(Aryan Race Nation)
equinoxnews ^ | 04/01/05 | Tiffanie Johnson and Roberto Chavez

Posted on 04/01/2005 4:46:09 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: billbears
You can flood my email with pro-Forrest propaganda, but I've read up on your hero's exploits enough to last a lifetime, thanks--to include Foote's three-volume love song to the South, along with the Forrest-adoring book 'Critter Company' et al. Contemporary eyewitness accounts, including a personal letter written by a Confederate Captain (whose name escapes me right now), confirm that the order to shoot prisoners--specifically black prisoners--was initiated and overseen by the commander. He did it. He was responsible. Forrest also co-founded the KKK, or are you going to go into that tiresome, neo-confederate apologia about that being a sensible reaction to an unnecessarily harsh Reconstruction policy? One wonders how many lynchings Forrest presided over.

And just how, exactly, does citing Union abuses constitute a defense of your hero's actions?

Finally, implying that I'm uninterested in the facts of the matter because I have some 'damn Yankee' bias is unfounded, if typical of those still in love with The Cause. True, I happen to have several direct ancestors and distant relatives who fought in the Civil War--one of whom died in Andersonville--but I also happen to think that Lee, for example, represented the nobility of spirit the best of the Old South stood for. And it is hard not to admire the cold brilliance of Jackson or the raw courage of common solders like Sam Watkins, who stuck it out bravely to the bitter end. So my advice? Find a new hero, one without so much innocent blood on his hands.
81 posted on 04/02/2005 7:40:31 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: familyop
"...unless you want to wear the reputation."

I will proudly "wear the reputation" of somebody who does not believe in depriving a man of his livelihood because of his privately held beliefs, especially a teacher who does nothing to propagandize his students and does nothing to corrupt or undermine their morals or patriotism.

Subscribing to goofy or even evil political philosophies is not a crime. Not in America.

82 posted on 04/02/2005 10:45:08 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: familyop
family op quoted: "...an audio-enhanced website where he spoke out against Jews and blacks, including FDU basketball players." __________________________________

But in the same article you've quoted --

    "The audio broadcast apparently was posted on Tuesday, March 22, the day after Pluss was dismissed."

The article also reports that his students were surprised to learn of his personal beliefs. There is nothing to suggest he let his personal beliefs intrude on his teaching. They were only publicized after his dismissal.

83 posted on 04/02/2005 11:06:10 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: Pikamax

The world is prejudiced against Nazis. Oh the horror.


84 posted on 04/02/2005 11:07:52 PM PST by Torie
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To: nathanbedford
Does anyone believe that he would have been fired for being a closet Marxist?

There IS a difference. A Marxist may hate non-Marxist (hey, I don't support the commies!), but he is willing to let the non-M become a Marxist. But a White Aryan Nation goon will hate a black man for BEING a black man. Can the black man become white? (well Michael Jackson doesn't count!) No, he cannot. So, the Aryan Nation goon hates a person and gives the person no chance to be redeemed in the AN goon's eyes.
85 posted on 04/02/2005 11:13:00 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: nathanbedford; LauraleeBraswell
Even a Klan member has a right to his point

REally? The Klan member's right to refuse business to a law-abiding, respectful black is ok? Just because the guy is black? The Klan member's right to lynch blacks, run them out of his neighborhood etc, is ok? Note: I'm not talking about your ghetto blacks, suppose if the black is just like you or me but with a black skin? I wouldn't want a ghetto black or a white-trash trailer park white or a wino American Indian or whatever in my neighborhood, but if they are decent people and don't interefer in my life, I don't care if my neighbors are black, white, red, yellow, brown, Jewish, Hindu, Christian or Buddhist.

Do YOU???
86 posted on 04/02/2005 11:16:46 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
"Find a new hero, one without so much innocent blood on his hands."

It seems to depend on whose account you want to believe and which facts you want to "admit into evidence."

87 posted on 04/02/2005 11:18:40 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: thoughtomator
How is that any worse than Ward Churchill? I detect a double standard. Is there academic immunity or not?

It is no worse. This dirtbag should have been fired, but so should Ward Churchill. It's such an amazing double standard and one only liberals fail to see. The mind reels.

88 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:13 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Bonaparte; jude24; familyop; nathanbedford
Is it? The communists themselves admit they murdered roughly 100 million innocent people during the 20th century. How many innocent civilians have been murdered by fascists in that century?

Note: THe communists murdered more people than fascists. True. However, they would let you go if you became a communist. Not so for nazis. Think of being a Jew in 1941 in Germany: could you save your skin by become a Nazi? NO.

That's the difference.

I don't know if you or Nathan are racist, so I will not comment on this. I think prejudice against ANYONE on the basis of race is stupid: whether the person is white or black or yellow or brown or red.
89 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:53 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Bonaparte
Clearly, the academy is not opposed to genocide and slavery per se, only to the wrong flavor of genocide and slavery.

Communist are scum. They killed their own people, not others -- not like the Nazi killing of the Jews or the Turks killing the Armenians. Slavery? Blacks enslaving whites???
90 posted on 04/02/2005 11:25:45 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: nathanbedford
can control thought, restrict speech, and interfere with free association and do so with ringing applause.

I disagree. Some things are beyond the pale and he has definitely crossed the line. These are not black and white issues where everything is ok under the banner of free speech. He is entitled to belong to any group he wants and say anything he wants, but the University is not obligated to pay him a salary. Ward Churchill should be fired as well.

91 posted on 04/02/2005 11:29:16 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Casloy
Ward Churchill should be fired as well.

I agree.
92 posted on 04/02/2005 11:29:57 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos
"Communist are scum. They killed their own people, not others."

I recommend that you read The Black Book Of Communism. It's the most detailed and scholarly account of communist murder (written by former communists). Stalin engaged in the slaughter of Poles, Kulaks, Jews, anybody he wanted. He (and Lenin before him) even murdered their own party members -- so much for "sparing" those who adopted communism. Ask any east european about the communists murdering "only their own." Or you could ask a Tibetan. Or a central African -- seems I heard Castro sent Cuban mercenaries to slaughter people there.

93 posted on 04/02/2005 11:35:16 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: Bonaparte
seems I heard Castro sent Cuban mercenaries to slaughter people there.

Not because they were black.
94 posted on 04/02/2005 11:38:08 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos
The point was not that they were black. The point was that they were not communists. That was the issue that was raised and the one I was addressing.
95 posted on 04/02/2005 11:39:01 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: Bonaparte
He (and Lenin before him) even murdered their own party members -- so much for "sparing" those who adopted communism.

Party intrigues. as you pointed out Stalin engaged in the slaughter of Poles, Kulaks, Jews, anybody he wanted.
96 posted on 04/02/2005 11:39:22 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Bonaparte
You wrote:
"There is nothing to suggest he let his personal beliefs intrude on his teaching. They were only publicized after his dismissal."

...yet another characteristic. You've been through the article enough by now to know better than that.

From the article:
"The professor speculated that he was dismissed because of his work with the National Socialist Movement on the internet, adding that the university "followed the typical Jewish, lawyerly, Hebrew line." He suggested that a "watchdog group" may have alerted FDU about his activities beyond the classroom."
97 posted on 04/02/2005 11:45:00 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Roman.)
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To: Pikamax
From Jay Nordlinger's latest Impromptus:

The Nazis are always being thrown in conservatives' faces, of course. That's why an acquaintance of mine — a conservative writer — always insists on referring to the Nazis by their full name, the National Socialists. Why not let socialists, nationalizers, collectivists, atheists, race obsessives — why not let others answer for the Nazis, and endure the cracks?

Glad to see the author of this article happens to follow this guideline, doubtless by accident rather than device.
98 posted on 04/02/2005 11:46:11 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Pikamax
Tenure of Avowed Marxist Controversy jolts College***…"In a nutshell, it means I have a fundamental disagreement with capitalism," he said. "I think that capitalism is a system based on exploitation and oppression and domination and racism and war and lots of other things.

"So I'm totally opposed to capitalism, and I think that the majority of the people of this country ought to get together and transform the system," he said. "I think we need to replace capitalism with some kind of democratic socialism." …***

Campus Marxists are a funny bunch--until they end up running your country ***Both of my grandfathers were exterminated by Stalinist terror. My father and mother both barely escaped the Gulag. But here I am, with PhD students, being treated to a one-hour discussion about "homophobia" on campus. My colleagues are agonizing about how "Homophobia-Free Zone" pink stickers must be put on every door in the university. "But what if a professor or a teaching assistant refuses to have one put on his door?" one of them asks indignantly. After a few seconds of silence, another answers, "Well, then a committee might just have to be set up where these people will be taken to account." Serious head-nods follow. ***

Professors take on role as high priests of activism *** As they gathered downtown earlier this week to protest the war in Iraq, a motley group of students and activists busily readied the tricks of their trade. A couple of men gingerly laid on the sidewalk two cardboard "caskets" topped with plastic flowers and the bloodied heads and body parts of baby dolls. A man wearing a white Cheshire cat mask hung a severed fake head of Vice President Dick Cheney, with a "666" scribbled on its forehead and plastic sword speared into the top. A young woman expertly dabbed white and black makeup on a young man's face to evoke an image of a ghoulish skeleton.

But the leader of the pack simply donned his professor's gown.***

99 posted on 04/02/2005 11:56:18 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nathanbedford

You assume that your points are "right" , and that your provenance does not matter.

You have it backwards.


100 posted on 04/03/2005 12:00:26 AM PST by unsycophant
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