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1 posted on 04/01/2005 7:34:47 AM PST by johnny7
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It was the media spin that hurt the GOP, not the GOP actions themselves. As well all know the MSM spin on things has no basis in reality.


2 posted on 04/01/2005 7:35:51 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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This case what ever side you're on might have hurt Jeb Bush but not exactly the GOP itself,at least I don't think so.


4 posted on 04/01/2005 7:37:00 AM PST by youngtory (The Conservative Party of Canada is no longer conservative all thanks to Harper.)
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How can you be 'hurt' advocating for life?


5 posted on 04/01/2005 7:37:04 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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[Anybody got another opinion?]

You're bad.... stirring the pot!!

6 posted on 04/01/2005 7:37:33 AM PST by RushCrush (Some people think I should provide equal time. Wrong. I AM equal time.)
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I don't know anyone on either side that isn't totally apathetic about this issue. I don't think it hurt anyone except the people involved. I heard some NBC mouth trying to stir up some more emotion from his audience but to me it just sounded like he was trying to sell soap.


7 posted on 04/01/2005 7:37:39 AM PST by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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Only time will tell. Some people would like for you to believe it hurt or is going to hurt the GOP.

But you know, many people disagreed with us on abortion and we were all just crazy right-to-lifers, etc....so it is not always popular to do the right thing. But in time, people usually come around.


8 posted on 04/01/2005 7:38:11 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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The "circus" hurt everyone...nobody looks good in any of this mess...it is a national disgrace.


9 posted on 04/01/2005 7:38:22 AM PST by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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Yes it has. I understand why - prolifers tend to wage the culture war based entirely on principles, without much concern for PR or politics. Thats why abortion is still on the books.

We need to be smarter - that means giving the rest of the party a "courtesy call" and ask for help and advice. Hannity was the only media personality who championed Terri's side effectively.

10 posted on 04/01/2005 7:39:01 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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Amazing that upholding the Constitution is now presented as causing harm....


11 posted on 04/01/2005 7:39:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Once again the opinion is short-sighted and biased.

The true crime of this situation is there was only one court that established the "fact" that Terri wanted to die.

It is a travesty.

12 posted on 04/01/2005 7:39:52 AM PST by QwertyKPH (Non-profane tagline)
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Ruben Navarrette Jr.? This is the guy who's going to tell Republicans how to be Republicans?

How come I never heard of him before?

Could it be because he appears in venues like NPR and SFGate?

Could it be because he's not a Republican?


13 posted on 04/01/2005 7:39:56 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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I don't think it hurt the GOP except to the people who want it to hurt the GOP. I disagree with the positions some of our conservatives took on the issue, but I'm as loyal as ever. I don't generally agree on everything anyway.


14 posted on 04/01/2005 7:40:14 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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Terri's saga has not hurt the GOP. However, the ultimate test is how the GOP handles these end-of-life issues going forward. If the GOP spokesman becomes Tom DeLay, then yes, it will hurt the GOP. Much as I've supported Tom in the past, he has a tendency to go overboard and doesn't know when to stop or pull back. If the GOP trods too heavily on families' abilities to make decisions for their loved ones, then the GOP will suffer at the ballot box. If, on the otherhand, the GOP leads a reasoned effort to address these issues, then it will be the Dems who suffer.


15 posted on 04/01/2005 7:40:19 AM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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Tripe. Nobody was hurt in this except Terri.


18 posted on 04/01/2005 7:41:28 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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We know the Dems weren't hurt...they have no feelings.


19 posted on 04/01/2005 7:41:44 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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Another little snippet from the article:
Now those gains are threatened by the rigid agenda of social conservatives within the GOP. Democrats once convinced themselves that they were more open-minded than anyone else; for social conservatives, it's all about being closer to God than anyone else. They spend a lot of time trying to convince the country that they have cornered the market on morality and they imply, or sometimes say outright, that anyone who disagrees with them comes up short in that department.
I expect this goes over well in Coastal California--where, as we know, GOP voters abound.
22 posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:31 AM PST by madprof98
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Only the parents came out as winners.


23 posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:35 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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Standing for life can only help the GOP. The media spin is one thing ... the media spin from a San Francisco paper is simply not worth the green stuff from my parrots behind.
30 posted on 04/01/2005 7:43:38 AM PST by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect or borders. FIRST, before and talk of "Amnesty.")
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I don't see where the GOP itself was hurt. And the item in the article about Tom Delay and his family having the much the same issue is poop.

Now Jeb Bush, he's toast. If any Republican was hurt it's Jeb Bush. He came across as wimpy. If ever there was a situation where a politician could have taken his shoe off and banged it against something this was it.

34 posted on 04/01/2005 7:44:15 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Here come da king, er, judge!)
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I don't think it hurt the GOP at all. Sure, the GOP was generally feckless and inept (nothing new there), but at least Republicans were mostly on the side of life.

I don't know how many of you saw the remarks by Terri's sister and brother following her death. I thought they were very inspirational and would recommend finding a transcript if you didn't see it. (I was a bit disappointed in Jeb's statement following her death; I think bro. POTUS' statement was much stronger and better.)


35 posted on 04/01/2005 7:44:20 AM PST by Stingray51
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