Posted on 04/01/2005 7:34:43 AM PST by johnny7
San Diego -- NOW THAT Terri Schiavo has died, many of the questions the country has been wrestling with are moot.
It no longer matters which doctor had the right diagnosis, or whether Schiavo's husband or parents had her best interests at heart, or whether the federal government should have been involved, or whether this was a case that was best handled by doctors and family members as opposed to politicians and judges.
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By the time 2006 elections roll around, here's my prediction for how it affects the GOP. It will divide voters into the following groups:
1. Terri who?
2. The GOP should've done more for Terri, but I'm not so insane I'd ever vote for a Democrat! I'm voting for the R
3. It was wrong for the GOP to be involved, but politics always involves some pandering. Besides, I'd never vote for a Democrat! I'm voting for the R
4. Republicans are religious fascists, but I've always known that. I've never voted for a Republican anyway and I'm not about to start now. I'm voting for the D
5. I will never forgive the GOP for not saving Terri. No way I'd vote for an evil Democrat though. I'll sit this one out. I'm not voting.
The only difference from any other election is what impact the people in group #5 might have. Today, in the heat of the moment, I'd say they represent less than 1% of the usual Republican base. By 2006, it will be less than 1%. In other words, at the end of the day I don't think it affects the GOP at all.
It hurt the liberals more because we see how quiet they were as the state sponsored murder of an American citizen.
Where were the dems? Very, very quiet.
I have seen what is planned for us and I intend to fight it.
I sure will not give power to the dems to further this agenda.
That's completely wrong. In fact, the 14th amendment - WHICH WAS RATIFIED BY THE STATES - requires due process in ANY government action, not just criminal cases. I can appreciate your passion on this, but you're completely wrong in these statements.
And Delay was out there front and center. The endless loops of film clips of the whackos at Pinellas Park beating drums and singing hymns hurt us. In fact, there are still there this morning. We need to distance ourself from them.
No it wasn't. It was never given a de novo review, which means a full review of both the facts and the laws that were applied. Again, you have your facts wrong.
The government set up the court system to operate impartially. The government can change the laws the courts rule upon, but they have no business trying to legislate the specific outcome in a specific case involving a specific individual. Otherwise, why have courts? We can just let politicians decide court cases for us. If this is the direction the Republican party wants to take, they will lose elections. The moderate middle, whose voices have been outshouted and demonized, even here on FR, will be voting their thoughts in the next election. Would you rather have a split GOP that allows the democrats and the likes of Hillary getting into power?
"This case what ever side you're on might have hurt Jeb Bush but not exactly the GOP itself,at least I don't think so."
Frankly, I don't have alot of faith in either of them anymore. And I won't be supporting any more BUSHes either.
Your lot seems to be cast with the culture of death. I say this republic will only thrive if we all seek to promote life.
When the laws have been infiltrated and changed to allow murder of citizens, and then the courts, of course, uphold the law, we are supposed to honor such laws?
No, the courts upheld the law this time but they ignored what was happening by the Florida legislature turning over its power to make laws to the end-of-life panel to make the laws they chose. The entire legislature should be turned out.
They are not doing their jobs, and, in fact, they have distorted the law to now enable the state to kill the citizens they determine are unworthy to live.
This will affect every single family in Florida and maybe it is going on in other states.
The law must be changed to again uphold the constitution which supports life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
It does not right now and therefore we are in big trouble.
Yes, now that your side as offed an innocent woman, you need to cover up the hit and go on your merry ways. How can you sleep knowing that that woman was murdered?
Thank you for your comments. Too many people here have the "ends justify the means" mentality that has made the democrats what they are. If we continue in that direction, then we would be no differnt than them. People here need to realize that.We are a nation of laws. The laws permitted what happened to Terri. The laws need to be modified, under the provisions of the state and/or federal constitutions. Under Florida law, essentially the spouse, whether a saint or demon, speaks for someone in Terri's condition. That would have to be ammended, changed or deleted from the law for there to be any different outcome.
Well stated!
Governor Bush led the passing of a law which the FSC ruled unconstitutional. That's what frustrates me. People shout "pass a law" - a law is passed and struck down. The Judiciary Branch has usurped too much power - there is an imbalance that must be rectified. Blood is dripping from their arrogant hands.
Nope, it's cast with the culture of constitution, law and conservatism.
Change the law then. But Terri's wishes were honored.
It was never required to get a de novo review while in the state courts. It was supposed to get a de novo review of allegations of rights violations in federal court. The federal court reviewed de novo those allegations submitted to it and dismissed them.
Again, the federal court was never told to review the entire case from the beginning. Nor is such a review required by any law.
Due process was followed. In fact, this case recieved an unprecedented level of due process. No amendment was violated in this case.
Of course it did, at least in the short term.
The Feds had NO business trying to interfere. Maybe someone in charge should actually READ the US Constitution.
Excuse me .. THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID THE PRESIDENT WAS CRAZY AND GOING TO IRAQ WAS STUPID.
They were WRONG THEN and they are WRONG NOW!!
And .. THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING!!
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