Pinellas county, Florida subhuman murderer Judgenfuhrer Greer:
"What should worry you is us, slave.
If you dare criticize ANY of us, we will starve you and your children."
Posted on 03/31/2005 11:49:50 AM PST by Thanatos
Neo-Nazis Kill Terri Schiavo
Mar 30th, 2005
| by William Federer Even before the rise of Adolph Hitler's Third Reich, the way for the gruesome Nazi holocaust of human extermination and cruel butchery was being prepared in the 1930 German Weimar Republic through the medical establishment and philosophical elite's adoption of the "quality of life" concept in place of the "sanctity of life." The Nuremberg trials, exposing the horrible Nazi war crimes, revealed that Germany's trend toward atrocity began with their progressive embrace of the Hegelian doctrine of "rational utility," where an individual's worth is in relation to their contribution to the state, rather than determined in light of traditional moral, ethical and religious values. This gradual transformation of national public opinion, promulgated through media and education, was described in an article written by the British commentator Malcolm Muggeridge, entitled "The Humane Holocaust," and in an article written by former United States Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, M.D., entitled "The Slide to Auschwitz," both published in The Human Life Review, 1977 and 1980 respectively. Malcolm Muggeridge stated: "Near at hand, we have been accorded, for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for 'quality of life' without reference to 'sanctity of life' can involve.... the great Nazi holocaust, whose TV presentation has lately been harrowing viewers throughout the Western world. “In this televised version, an essential consideration has been left out - namely, that the origins of the holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism and anti-Semitism, but in pre-Nazi Weimar Germany's acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.... “It took no more than three decades to transform a war crime into an act of compassion, thereby enabling the victors in the war against Nazi-ism to adopt the very practices for which the Nazis had been solemnly condemned at Nuremberg."1 The transformation followed thus: the concept that the elderly and terminally ill should have the right to die was promoted in books, newspapers, literature and even entertainment films, the most popular of which were entitled Ich klage an (I accuse) and Mentally Ill. One euthanasia movie, based on a novel by a National Socialist doctor, actually won a prize at the world-famous Venice Film Festival! Extreme hardship cases were cited which increasingly convinced the public to morally approve of euthanasia. The medical profession gradually grew accustomed to administering death to patients who, for whatever reasons, felt their low "quality of life" rendered their lives not worth living, or as it was put, liebensunwerten Lebens, (life unworthy of life).2 In an Associated Press release, published in the New York Times, October 10, 1933, entitled "Nazi Plan to Kill Incurables to End Pain; German Religious Groups Oppose Move," it was stated: "The Ministry of Justice, in a detailed memorandum explaining the Nazi aims regarding the German penal code, today announced its intentions to authorize physicians to end the sufferings of the incurable patient. “The memorandum...proposed that it shall be possible for physicians to end the tortures of incurable patients, upon request, in the interest of true humanity. “This proposed legal recognition of euthanasia - the act of providing a painless and peaceful death - raised a number of fundamental problems of a religious, scientific, and legal nature. “The Catholic newspaper Germania hastened to observe: 'The Catholic faith binds the conscience of its followers not to accept this method'... “In Lutheran circles, too, life is regarded as something that God alone can take.... “Euthanasia... has become a widely discussed word in the Reich.... “No life still valuable to the State will be wantonly destroyed."3 Nationalized health care and government involvement in medical care promised to improve the public's "quality of life."4 Unfortunately, the cost of maintaining government medical care was a contributing factor to the growth of the national debt, which reached astronomical proportions. Double and triple digit inflation crippled the economy, resulting in the public demanding that government cut expenses.5 This precipitated the 1939 order to cut federal expenses. The national socialist government decided do remove "useless" expenses from the budget, which included the support and medical costs required to maintain the lives of the retarded, insane, senile, epileptic, psychiatric patients, handicapped, deaf, blind, the non-rehabilitable ill, and those who had been diseased or chronically ill for five years or more. It was labeled an "act of mercy" to "liberate them through death," as they were viewed as having an extremely low "quality of life," as well as being a tax burden on the public. The public psyche was conditioned for this, as even school math problems compared distorted medical costs incurred by the taxpayer of caring for and rehabilitating the chronically sick, with the cost of loans to newly married couples for new housing units.6 The next whose lives were terminated by the state were the elderly in institutions who had no relatives and no financial resources. These lonely, forsaken individuals were needed by no one and would be missed by no one. Their "quality of life" was considered low by everyone's standards, and they were a tremendous tax burden on the economically distressed state.7 The next to be eliminated were the parasites on the state: the street people, bums, beggars, hopelessly poor, gypsies, prisoners, inmates and convicts. These were socially disturbing individuals incapable of providing for themselves, whose "quality of life" was considered by the public as irreversibly below standard, in addition to the fact that they were a nuisance to society and a seed-bed for crime.8 The liquidation grew to include those who had been unable to work, the socially unproductive, and those living on welfare or government pensions. They drew financial support from the state, but contributed nothing financially back. They were looked upon as "useless eaters," leeches, stealing from those who worked hard to pay the taxes to support them. Their unproductive lives were a burden on the "quality of life" of those who had to pay the taxes.9 The next to be eradicated were the ideologically unwanted, the political enemies of the state, religious extremists, and those "disloyal" individuals considered to be holding the government back from producing a society which would function well and provide everyone a better "quality of life." The moving biography of the imprisoned Dietrich Bonhoffer chronicled the injustices. These individuals also were a source of "human experimental material," allowing military medical research to be carried on with human tissue, thus providing valuable information which promised to improve the nation's health .10 Finally, justifying their actions on the purported theory of evolution, the Nazi's considered the German, or "Aryan," race as "ubermenschen," supermen, being more advanced in the supposed progress of human evolution. This resulted in the twisted conclusion that all other races, and in particular the Jewish race, were less evolved, and needed to be eliminated from the so-called "human gene pool," ensuring that future generations of humans would have a higher "quality of life."11 C. Everett Koop, M.D., stated: "The first step is followed by the second step. You can say that if the first step is moral then whatever follows must be moral. “The important thing, however, is this: whether you diagnose the first step as being one worth taking or being one that is precarious rests entirely on what the second step is likely to be... “I am concerned about this because when the first 273,000 German aged, infirm, and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession either, and it was not far from there to Auschwitz."12 Can this holocaust happen in America? Indeed, it has already begun. The idea of killing a person and calling it "death with dignity" is an oxymoron. The "mercy-killing" movement puts us on the same path as pre-Nazi Germany. The "quality of life" concept, which eventually results in the Hegelian utilitarian attitude of a person's worth being based on their contribution toward perpetuating big government, is in stark contrast to America's founding principles. This philosophy which lowers the value of human life, shocked attendees at the Governor's Commission on Disability, in Concord, New Hampshire, October 5, 2001, as they heard the absurd comments of Princeton University professor Peter Singer. The Associated Press reported Singer's comments: "I do think that it is sometimes appropriate to kill a human infant," he said, adding that he does not believe a newborn has a right to life until it reaches some minimum level of consciousness. "For me, the relevant question is, what makes it so seriously wrong to take a life?" Singer asked. "Those of you who are not vegetarians are responsible for taking a life every time you eat. Species is no more relevant than race in making these judgments."13 Singer's views, if left unchecked, could easily lead to a repeat of the atrocities of Nazi Germany, if not something worse. Add to that unbridled advances in the technology of cloning, DNA test which reveal physical defects, human embryos killed for the purpose of gathering stem cells to treat Diseases...and a haunting future unfolds before us. President Theodore Roosevelt's warning in 1909 seems appropriate: "Progress has brought us both unbounded opportunities and unbridled difficulties. Thus, the measure of our civilization will not be that we have done much, but what we have done with that much. “I believe that the next half century will determine if we will advance the cause of Christian civilization or revert to the horrors of brutal paganism. “The thought of modern industry in the hands of Christian charity is a dream worth dreaming. “The thought of industry in the hands of paganism is a nightmare beyond imagining. The choice between the two is upon us."14 In his State of the Union address in 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt stated: "There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a new morality. “What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there is no such thing as a new morality. “There is only one morality. All else is immorality. “There is only true Christian ethics over against which stands the whole of paganism. “If we are to fulfill our great destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole morality.... “All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece and Rome."15 In biblical comparison, Jesus showed mercy by healing the sick and giving sanity back to the deranged, but never did he kill them. This attitude was exemplified by Mother Teresa of Calcutta, whose version of "death with dignity" is to gather the dying from off the street, and show compassion to these rejected and abandoned members of the human race, all the while knowing that they may only survive for another half hour. Her "mercy-living" movement goes to great trouble to house, wash and feed even the most hopeless and derelict, because of inherent respect for the "sanctity of life" of each individual. This attitude is summed up in her statement: "I see Jesus in every human being. I say to myself, this is hungry Jesus, I must feed him. This is sick Jesus. This one has leprosy or gangrene; I must wash him and tend to him. I serve because I love Jesus."16 Will America chose the "sanctity of life" concept, as demonstrated by Mother Teresa, or will America chose the "quality of life" concept, championed by self-proclaimed doctors of death court decisions - such as in the case of Terri Schiavo - and continue its slide toward Auschwitz? What kind of subtle anesthetic has been allowed to deaden our national conscience? What horrors await us? The question is not whether the suffering and dying person's life should be terminated, the question is what kind of nation will we become if they are? Their physical death is preceded only by our moral death! |
I am not defending the court order...I am just countering the point that she would have lived a LOT longer. No one knows and with everyone throwing around God's wrath and judgement, we don't even know if this was HIS will. It is said that God works in mysterious (and sometimes they may appear to us to be evil...in our limited understanding of Him) ways.
You are right...she would have lived longer if given food and water yes and as I said before it was a horrible situation for HER and HER family. My point was it seems everyone is slipping into this attitude where God is coming to punish us for this when it may have been HIM all along. Maybe he was ready to call her home.
And with that I will back out of this because I am NOWHERE near as passionate about this as most on here. Just curious about the general attitude that seems to be prevailing in regards to this....kind of scarey actually...
Hard to believe.
I'm sorry, are you claiming to speak for "True Christians"?
You aren't.
First of all, pointing out America's sins is not hateful. I never said everybody in America is going to hell. This is not about eternal destinies. It is about our place in history. Nations rise and fall at His command.
"This situation is all America's fault" Who are you going to blame, the French? It's not evil to murder the innocent and have all your courts agree?
You're right. Whenever I've heard some conservative say "We must respect the rule of law here" or "We must respect the judicial process," all I could hear was echoes of Hitler's SS goons saying, "I was only following orders."
It's not the liberals that concern me. It's the "conservatives."
Actually, no. Godwin's Law is explained here.
(So how would you criticize the Third Reich? As soon as you mentioned it, you'd lose.)
I agree that those who murdered Terri are not neo-nazis. But it's no stretch to invoke starving death comparisons - regardless of instance - as a cautionary point, lest it become true.
And the murders that began with just one included not only Jews but the disabled, deformed, and retarded and Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Christians. It began with the disabled. Some have forgotten that detail.
"I don't believe the God of the OT is the God of today"
I can only conclude you are
1)An atheist - therefore your views of God are, of course, irrelevant.
2)A professing Christian, but making it up as you go. The Bible, of course, indicates that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament come in the flesh.
3) Believe that God changes, in that case he is no God at all.
No, but as one myself, I know that NO ONE can compare to our Lord and doing so is, in fact, using His name in vain.
By disagreeing with me - are you saying you believe Terri 'died for all our sins'?
(rhetorical - I assume you do not)
a.Please define "child".
b."hopeless" according to whom?
c.Please define "most heinous".
How does killing an unborn child help the rape victim? Mr. Felos apparently decided that Terri was "hopeless".
BTW, where were you during WWII?
Pinellas county, Florida subhuman murderer Judgenfuhrer Greer:
"What should worry you is us, slave.
If you dare criticize ANY of us, we will starve you and your children."
The connection is, I think, the lack of respect for life. True, the name tag can apply to Stalin, or Alexander the Great as well. {Not to mention the Roman Empire.)But, life is more than some sort of utilitarian function, as defined by the state.
"How does ANYONE know this? Simple question..."
How does anybody know that any murder victim would have lived longer had they not been killed? Ignorant Question
No one said Terri died for our sins.
And by the way, to discuss Christ's sufferings in the context of other suffering is not taking the Lord's name in vain.
You don't seem very well educated on Christianity.
What do you really know about how Naziism and how it began? Did you know that it began by sending thousands of people like Terri Schiavo to "special" hospitals, where they were either sterilized or killed? Do you know that the early Nazi officials mass-produced propaganda books and films that tried to soften peoples' sensitivites towards euthanizing the crippled and mentally retarded and mentally ill?
As Hitler revealed in his writings, his goal was to 'allow' a 'perfect' race, by killing off the weak, the crippled, the disabled, and of course, the Jews. He accomplished the mass killing and sterilization of the disabled by softening public opinion, then creating "laws" that could do away with them. As I would hope everyone knows, he also created "laws" which allowed the extermination of Jews and anybody else in the way of his agenda.
Would that the Germans back then possessed the light and the courage to stop it all before it got out of control. But Germany then, like America now, was a technologically and scientifically advanced nation, and a nation of laws. It was their national pride and their robotic following of anything called "law" that allowed for the Jewish extermination attempt, for WWII and the subsequent deaths of untold millions of Christians. Some people claim to know something about history today, but when they speak they reveal that they know nothing of the kind.
What does 911 have tp do with the unborn? I thought 9/11 was an attack by Islamic terrorist? Either you are a troll or a victim of ignorant theology. There is no covenant with the US and God. God will judge all (individuals) according to the New Covenant.
Sigh. Ok, I see. 5 years. 7 years. 17 years. Does it really make a difference?
Terri Schiavo was 41 years old, was not sick, and was not terminal.
My point was it seems everyone is slipping into this attitude where God is coming to punish us for this when it may have been HIM all along.
I said nothing about God. I merely responded to your "immortal" crack.
Just curious about the general attitude that seems to be prevailing in regards to this....kind of scarey actually...
Explain what is scary about this, because that is something that baffles me.
Side A is trying to make it easier for the state to order innocent people killed. Side B objects. And folks like you find Side B to be the "scary" side. It's "scary" that if Side B got their way the state might not be able to so easily order a person's death!??!?
Honestly, I feel like I must be missing something because that just strikes me as looney-tunes.
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