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Live Thread: President's Remarks on Terri's Death
various | 3/31/2005 | Pyro7480

Posted on 03/31/2005 8:05:44 AM PST by Pyro7480

President Bush will make remarks on the death of Terri Schindler (Schiavo) at 11:40 am EST.


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To: proud American in Canada

Some would call it consitutional over-reach. Like the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. I haven't heard anyone refer to it as the Police Action in Iraq.

Point being, if you attack one over-reach, if you're sincere, you need to attack them all. Otherwise, don't use the soldiers as fodder for your argument.


461 posted on 03/31/2005 10:13:20 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: hushpad
He's a President -- not a dictator. He has to follow the laws as they are written just as much as anyone else. If this President were to ignore a law when convenient, what will you do when the next President Kerry decides to ignore the law for his pet causes?
462 posted on 03/31/2005 10:13:52 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: oldbrowser; Lexington Green

"medial pot ???"



I think he meant "medical pot" (as in "medical marijuana").


463 posted on 03/31/2005 10:14:06 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: EternalVigilance
But he wouldn't see Alan Keyes, who had the brief that outlined the constitutional issues at stake here.

http://www.renewamerica.us/news/050328keyes.htm

You are dead-on. The link is for folks who might like a well-reasoned constitutional argument. I presume you're familiar with it.

464 posted on 03/31/2005 10:15:35 AM PST by DC Bound
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To: BCR #226
If he doesn't, he must be removed by Congress for conspiracy to commit murder, contempt, and anything else that he can be nailed with.

Good post, but Judge Greer is not a federal judge so it would have to be the Florida Legislature that impeached him for whatever reason.

We are at about the point of the Boston Massacre, when most of the Patriots counseled restraint. We have to figure out how NOT to get to the point of Lexington and Concord. But the only way that can happen, as you state, is for change to occur in "our" government.

As far as casting the first stone, I for one am not casting stones, but rather critiquing the actions of my employees. They didn't do the job they were hired to do, and at minimum they have bet told that they did not meet expectations.

465 posted on 03/31/2005 10:15:55 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: TAdams8591

What should they have done that they didn't do that was legal?


466 posted on 03/31/2005 10:16:09 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dante3

They REFUSED to take the DIRECT action to RESCUE her. Very much AGREED.


467 posted on 03/31/2005 10:16:13 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
I think he meant "medical pot" (as in "medical marijuana").

Undoubtedly, but he is too high to spell it correctly.

468 posted on 03/31/2005 10:17:12 AM PST by oldbrowser (What really matters is culture, ethos, character, and morality)
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To: TAdams8591

OK - so what would a President Kerry have done?


469 posted on 03/31/2005 10:17:22 AM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: Gelato

This is not an execution in the legal sense.


470 posted on 03/31/2005 10:19:49 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: hushpad
There are some who will not criticize this President, but beyond Terri, Bush has gone the "wrong way" plenty of times. He is Weak on Border Security siding with the foreign potentate Fox, He signed the unconstitutional Campaign Finance Reform bill, he was too weak for recess appointments of judges, his "tax cuts" are a joke, they were simply "credits" for particular people, he continues to suck up to the U. N.

And how would a President Kerry have been any better on those issues? Would he have been better on border security? Did he oppose CFR or support it even more than Bush? Would he have more tax cuts or tax increases? Would his judges have been better selected? Would he further enable the U.N. or not?

Face the facts. Bush may be flawed, (he is not Jesus Christ after all), but he's by a long shot far better than any other choice we were given in the previous election? Who would you have supported instead? And who will you support in 2008?

471 posted on 03/31/2005 10:20:29 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: El Gato

Please don't take my casting of stones comment personally, it was meant for the commuity at large.

Thanks bro,

Mike


472 posted on 03/31/2005 10:20:55 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: CFC__VRWC

Neither. I think the initial emotions will calm down rather quickly. With a little knowledge about the case, MS and Greer are the obvious bad actors. Some people are disappointed with Jeb and W, but I don't think it will have any real lasting effects for most. One can be disappointed without going off the deep end.

I seriously doubt the Demorats can make much of Jeb's involvement one way or the other. After all, where were they on the whole matter?


473 posted on 03/31/2005 10:21:14 AM PST by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: daybreakcoming

The point has been made and I well agree, NOTHING!!!!


474 posted on 03/31/2005 10:21:21 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: bvw
Murder is a crime no matter how many laws allow it, no matter how many majesties in robes say it is "lawful".

Murder, by definition, is a crime.

The problem is determining what constitutes murder. Some believe ANY killing is murder, even in self-defense. Some believe ANY war is immoral (Quakers). Some believe abortion is murder under any circumstances, some believe infanticide is OK, and some are in the middle. Some believe Terri Schindler's feeding tube removal is wrong under any circumstances, some only if SHE had expressed this via a living will, some only if ALL relatives agree, some say next-of-kin's dubious word is OK.

It's a serious subject that deserves serious debate. Emotions and tempers are running too high to have that right now.

475 posted on 03/31/2005 10:21:24 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: daybreakcoming

The point has been made and I well agree, NOTHING!!!!


476 posted on 03/31/2005 10:21:29 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: jpsb
Even leaving the troops on Bataan to die was not as bad as sitting around and watching a cool blooded horrific murder.

Want to take that one back?

477 posted on 03/31/2005 10:21:51 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: FreedomCalls
He has to follow the laws as they are written just as much as anyone else.

Except the judiciary. Where is the consequence for their violation of written law? Where was the rebuke from the other two branches? It's not against any law to find a microphone and proclaim your position and point out the lawlessness.

478 posted on 03/31/2005 10:22:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: FreedomCalls
He's a President -- not a dictator. He has to follow the laws as they are written just as much as anyone else.

What law, specifically, prevents him from standing-down law enforcement who have been overtaken by courts? What law, specifically, prevents him from acting in tandem with the U.S. Congress, from telling the courts their juridiction? What law, specifically, reigns above the Constitution?

479 posted on 03/31/2005 10:22:27 AM PST by DC Bound
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To: FreedomCalls
He's a President -- not a dictator. He has to follow the laws as they are written just as much as anyone else. If this President were to ignore a law when convenient, what will you do when the next President Kerry decides to ignore the law for his pet causes?

To take the life of an innocent person violates the constitutions of Florida and the United States. The supreme law of the land is that all persons have the right to life. Period.

There is no basis on which a judge should be obeyed when he orders disobedience to the Constitution. He is not superior to the supreme law of the land. He is not our king.

480 posted on 03/31/2005 10:22:43 AM PST by Gelato
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