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It doesn't.
Bastards!
Well put.
This article is a must read.
Oh, so this is how it happened. I'm very disturbed by the fact that known euthanasia advocates were able to sway the decision but I see what happened now.
Couple this with the terrible mistake their lawyer made when the case went federal (choosing to argue about Greer instead of taking the chance to start over anew with new judges), and the mistakes are heartbreaking.
But they didn't have the money Michael had. Nor does it seem they had any clue all of this was going to happen until after Michael got the money and changed his tune. I can't judge them, I don't know how well-educated and capable I would have been in a similar situation.
I do know that watching your daughter starve to death, a daughter who is still responsive with you and who can obviously still feel the pain of her forced death, must be torment.
Good point. It is not a "reasonable distinction". It's most certainly, NOT "ok". It may be legal (in Florida anyway) but that doesn't make it right.
...Continued prayers for Terri...
"Request?"
Technically, maybe.
In the real world, NO.
Because even the President and his brother read the Polls.
"... all Experience hath shown that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed."
Perhaps they should have relied more on Thomas Jefferson and personal rights.
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It should read Why America lost a do-or-die battle.
The reason is that America relegated it's faith to small buildings, one day a week. America expelled God from the public venue. America slept while the amoral Hippies grew-up and took over the country. America permitted abortion on demand. America is embracing and normalizing homosexuality. Now, America is allowing the life of an innocent woman to be reduced to arguments over legal procedures and the correctness of court filings.
I came from an America that that would have stood up and said: To hell with your procedures and your lousy paperwork! We're talking about an innocent woman's life here.
Now, America cringes in fear before the likes of George Felos, the Shiva-worshipping Hindu lawyer for the adulterer-husband of Terri, Micheal Schiavo, and that black-robed Mullah, George Greer.
That Cabal has effectively established that elected officials and representatives do not run the country. An elitist oligarchy has seized control; the "rule of law" has become whatever they decide "the law" is, on any given day; and now they determine who the "usless eaters" are, as well as how they should be disposed of.
While America neglected it's responsibilities and obligations to God, the Creator of the Universe has been preparing His judgment upon this nation of sleepers. It is only because of his mercy and grace, that swift and sure destruction has not already befallen America.
But it is coming, just as sure as it came upon Israel. "And it shall come to pass in that day, that every place shall be, where there were a thousand vines at a thousand silverlings, it shall even be for briers and thorns. With arrows and with bows shall men come thither; because all the land shall become briers and thorns. And on all hills that shall be digged with the mattock, there shall not come thither the fear of briers and thorns: but it shall be for the sending forth of oxen, and for the treading of lesser cattle." (Isa 7:23-25)
One of the Founders (whose name escapes me at the moment) remarked to the effect that he feared for our nation, when he considered that God is just. I echo those sentiments because His Grace & Mercy will not restrain His Justice forever.
Forgive us, Almighty God, for our sins of omission. Save Terri's life through your Mighty Power, to your glory. Save her, and have mercy upon us.
Unfortunately, I believe the options in the Courts have run their course, and due to incompetent counsel, they were waged on the wrong issues and were lost before they even got off the ground.
One of the disturbing things to me is that the Schindlers have had lousy lawyering from the start. They were manipulated and mislead by groups with political agendas of their own.
They should have retained a top flight Constitutional lawyer like Alan Dershowitz or Davis Boise who have expressed great sympathy and understanding of Terri's plight, instead of a using emotional, inexperienced, political idealogues
IMO the special interest groups with their own agenda
(even though I might agree with parts of that agenda) have hijacked Terri's interest and given her representation by an idealogue instead of a top Constitutional lawyer and that doomed Terri.
I also believe that these idealogues would have never ceded the spotlight to Dershowitz, Boise, or Ted Olson, even though they are the only kind of lawyers who would have had a ghost of a chance to save Terri.
A well-written article overall. I agre with the author's basic premise. The Schindlers' lawyers really bungled the case badly, from most of what I've read. They also expressed their sympathetic understanding of Michael Schiavo's adulterous co-habitation with a girlfriend, which may have resulted in his getting away with flaunting a Florida statute against adultery.
Of course, Greer's conflict of interest (campaign contributions from Felos) should have come into play, as well as Felos' logtime activism with the Hemlock Society, et al. What a mess.
I agree that the Schindlers were out-maneuvred! They should have gone to real well-known pro-life groups, instead of what appears to be a lame-duck one and gotten real help. There's plenty of groups out there to help and would've jumped at the chance. The lawyer they were given didn't see what hit them...and I still think hasn't figured it out.
Take away guardianship.
Take away stated or otherwise wishes.
Take away brain condition.
Take away doctors' evaluations and labels.
Take away hospital/hospice care received.
Take away family dynamics.
Take away politics.
Take away law, lawyering, and judges' rulings.
Take away any and all debate.
An innocent, defenseless, living, breathing human being is purposefully being starved to death. They are not pulling any true life support *plug.*
Any member of a decent society rightly considers death by starvation to be cruel and inhumane. There is simply no way around that very base, simple, naked statement.
And further, Michael's words on Terri's true wishes (not stated until seven years after her collapse and the monies banked,) have been fogged and contradicted by himself on national TV. Terri's body was not shutting down already on its own. And that Judge Greer's ruling expressly included nothing by mouth including ice chips, beyond the removal of the feeding tube, is so very revealing.
In Terri's case, there is a veritable plethora of bright red flags. And because so, I stand with President George W. Bush that we must *err* on the side of life.
And fellow FReeper Dolphy wrote this food for thought, (which I think, is more for those who think that a feeding tube, in reality, constitutes true life support,) on another thread yesterday:
"More specifically, it is about who gets to substitute judgment for the incapacitated or incompetent in the absence of a written directive. In Florida the law says that evidence of ones desire to end life prolonging treatment must be clear and convincing. I agree with that but I remain unconvinced, by the publicly available documents, that Greer met that standard."
The original Project on Death in America site was eliminated and PDIA was incorporated into OSI in December 2003, but today the original was accessible again and has a current date of March 31, 2005.
Dr. Peter Bambakidis - 'Independent' doctor appointed by Judge Greer to examine Ms. Schiavo.
Peter Bambakidis, M.D. Dr. Bambakidis earned his bachelor's and master's degree in music at the Cleveland Institute of Music.
Dr. Peter Bambakidis testimony that heart attack wasn’t cause for Terri’s collapse
Google-Case Western Reserve University + Peter Bambakidis
Google-Case Western Reserve University + Project on Death in America
Bambakidis Links to Ira R. Byock
Ira R. Byock - Involved in various Soros groups
Ira Robert Byock - 1984-2003 University of Montana
Ira Byock, Director, Practical Ethics Center, University of Montana Note: he is Director of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation National Program.
Dr. Ira Byock Biographical Info
Byock Missoula Quality of Life Index (MVQOLI)
**For further information contact:
Susan Bruno
Director of Institute Outreach
The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast
Byock Links to George J. Felos
George Felos / Partnership for Caring Not Dead Yet info Robert Wood Johnson Connection
George J. Felos - Attorney for Michael R. Schiavo. Numerous connections to Soros related groups. Student of Byock.
George J. Felos Profile from book publisher - Note: Board Chair of Hospice of the Florida Suncoast
Hospice is for Caring ... or is it for Killing? Felos Student of Byock
Byock links to Mary J. Labyak
Public Policy Florida Hospice 7- 22 C Byock/Labyak AARP interview on Hospice. Link to 6/98 AARP Bulletin not available
National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization NHPCO Pre Conference Institutes September 5 and 6, 2003 Mary Labyak/Ira Byock Speakers
NHPCO / Project on Death in America Schedule of conferences on Project on Death in America site
New at Project on Death In America - Current as of March 31, 2005
Mary J. Labyak - CEO Hospice of the Florida Suncoast. Numerous connections to Soros related groups. Links to Mary Labyak:
Mary J. Labyak CEO Letter Hospice Florida Suncoast
Rallying Points - A Last Acts Initiative
BOARD OF DIRECTORS PARTNERSHIP FOR CARING:AMERICA'S VOICES FOR THE DYING
George Soros - Through foundations, institutes and projects all the above link to Soros
Project on Death in America Reflections On Death In America A speech given by George Soros on November 30, 1994 for the Alexander Ming Fisher Lecture Series at Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center
The death related institutes and projects are infinite.
The Schindlers made the same mistakes as your average Conservatives always do. They did not realize they were up against far more than they knew. The Doctors, Hospitals, Insurance Companies, Social Security all have an interest in seeing Mrs. Schiavo die, not to mention a the inconvenience to her husband.
Not once can I recall a party directly related to the Schindler do any PR about the far broader issues of how this can effect everyone else. Not once. It was all centered on only Mrs. Schiavo herself. What was needed instead here was a PR campaign to be run concurrently with the case(I remember a small hysteria about euthanasia when I was a kid in Catholic school and being told it was sinful), spelling out the details of what kind of precedent this sets, how it will effect people of all stripes, how Mrs. Schiavo was neglected by her husband and not allowed every chance of recovery etc.
As a result of this case I am now for changing the filibuster rule, and whatever else it takes to reign in these Courts/Secularists. We are in trouble in this country, and I don't think we are going to get out of it peacefully.
They were out-lawyered from the start, and the judicial decisions based on that were what was upheld from then on.
Ollie is just GREAT right now with what he's saying.
"In fact, it is a human rights issue. Schiavo is not in pain and is not dying. She is not on life support. Her care is not expensive. Why does her disability deserve a death sentence? "
- Jim Robinson
The parents may have seen this as a religious issue, but when you deal with the courts, you need to find another angle. This reality makes legal battles very difficult for truly devout people.
It's best to find an attorney who respects your position but will work hard to present another argument to the court.
Sad, but true. Religious arguments fall on deaf ears.
The right to life side lost because the game was rigged.
