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Why the pro-life lobby lost a do-or-die battle
The Age (Australia) ^ | 3/31/05 | Michael Cook

Posted on 03/30/2005 10:15:58 PM PST by freespirited

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To: Pepper777
Thank-you for your complement.

I only wish it could have been strong enough and early enough to have affected a different outcome to what has become a horrible tragedy for our country.

I will go so far as to say that this was worse than the Cole bombing, or even 9/11.

Why? Because those are the actions one would expect from an enemy.

What was done to Terri ... well, we did it ourselves through our sins of omission and selfishness. We allowed a group of anti-American Americans to murder an innocent American woman because we allowed a special interest group to redefine what life is, while another group of Americans stood by, speaking condescending platitudes, and let it happen. And not even that is the real tragedy; The real tragedy is, I fear in my heart of hearts, that no one in this life will be called to answer for what was done.
121 posted on 04/01/2005 2:44:42 AM PST by Washington_minuteman (Visiting Constitutionalist)
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To: windchime

Thanks for those links! Much appreciated!


122 posted on 04/01/2005 4:55:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

You're welcome!


123 posted on 04/01/2005 6:39:47 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: windchime
Foundation Collaboration: Two Decades to an American Culture of Death  Lifetree.org  PDF

Two Decades to an American Culture of Death  Lifetree.org  html

Missoula Demonstration Project (which later became Life's End Institute) is founded in Missoula, Montana, by Ira Byock and Barbara Spring.  Initial funding came from Nathan Cummings Foundation and Project on Death in America.  In addition, Mayday provided $150,000 (1996-1999) for Missoula's "Pain as the Fifth Vital Sign" project, conducted by Linda Torma, MSN.  In 1999, executive director Barbara Spring would be replaced by bioethicist Mark Hanson of the Hastings Center.  Hanson would also become interim director of the Practical Ethics Center at Univ. of Montana (Promoting Excellence headquarters).

Sean MorrisonProject on Death in America Newsletter   Fox frequent guest week of Terri Schindler death

Soros' first round of Open Society Institute and Project on Death in America Faculty Scholars include: 

Diane Meier, Judith C. Ahronheim, Jane Morris, Sean Morrison OSI Scholars at Mt. Sinai Medical Center in NY-Andrew Billings ( OSI Scholar, MGH/Harvard)-Wm. Breitbart (OSI Scholar, Memorial Sloan-Kettering/Cornell)-Nicholas Christakis (U.Chicago)-Stuart Farber (U. Wash.)-Carlos Gomez (U.Va.)-Sarah Goodlin (White River Junction, VT and Dartmouth)-Steven Miles (U.Minn.)-Thomas Smith (Va. Commonwealth)-James Tulsky (Duke)-Charles von Gunten (Northwestern)-David Weissman (Med. Coll. of Wisconsin)

Reflections On Death In America - Soros November 30, 1994

"In three years we will have a leader and role model in place in one-fourth of the countrys medical schools."

1995 OSI Faculty Scholars

Project Summary: Development of faculty from all clinical departments to be palliative care consultants and role models.

Center to Advance Palliative Care (CAPC)

Sean Morrison - Fox News Interview   

Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatric and internal medicine at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine in New York, said that while coma patients recover, patients in a persistent vegetative state do not.

He also said it was wrong to characterize Schiavo's death as starvation.

"What happens is she loses fluid from her body, she enters a peaceful coma and she gradually passes away, very gently and very peacefully," he said.

The Debate Over Terri Schiavo  Congressman Dave Weldon-Dr. Sean Morrison - Partial Transcript O'Reilly Factor  3-21-05


 

124 posted on 04/02/2005 5:32:10 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: freespirited; Calpernia; Fedora; backhoe; PhiKapMom; MarMema
Post # 124 adding info to Post #60 ping. 

 

125 posted on 04/02/2005 5:36:55 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: Miss Marple

Found your comment regarding Dr. Sean Morrison and Mt. Sinai Medical Center on Google and thought you might be interested in Post #124.


126 posted on 04/02/2005 5:43:18 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: windchime

Thank you. I have been avoiding many of these threads, so I wouldn't have seen it.


127 posted on 04/02/2005 6:17:13 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I disagree with you completely about Sekolow. He's a dyed-in-the-wool judicial supremacist, which he proved with his comments on this case in the media.

He stepped in at a crucial time and totally undercut our position.
128 posted on 04/02/2005 6:22:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: Miss Marple

"I have been avoiding many of these threads"

You're welcome!

Wise move. But for occassional perusal and response/info posts, I've tried to do the same in recent weeks.


129 posted on 04/02/2005 7:06:55 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: Jim Robinson

The solution to the tyranny of the JUDICIAL OLIGARCHS is to get candidates in Republican executive branch primaries to promise to do what Jeb Bush refused to do - to use the constitutional power the executive holds equal to the other two branches to NULLIFY unconstitutional laws and judicial decisions by not enforcing or countermanding them. EXECUTIVE NULLIFICATION, practiced by Presidents Jefferson and Jackson, has atrophied from disuse since the early days of the republic. The trend was set by enforcement of the widely unpopular in the north Dred Scot decision (1857) by a northern Democrat president (Buchanan) who was friendly to slavery which led to civil war. Plessy and the busing cases after Brown were equally unconstitutional as was removing prayer from schools, but we all had to bow and scrape because we have been led to believe the courts were the final word, no matter how wrong and unjust.

We should not fear that Democrat presidents and governors would do the same. Errors by chief executives are only until the next election. Errors by the Supreme Court are for the lives of the justices and often beyond through stare decisis and the interest of members of the courts, regardless of by whom appointed, to conserve and accrue their own power.

It is interesting to note that when Judge Greer enlisted the willing assistance of the Pinellas County Sheriff's executive police power for enforcement of his concentration camp which Governor Bush used as and excuse for not acting because of a possible armed conflict that Governor Bush had the Florida constitutional power to resolve the dispute in his favor by suspending and replacing both the sheriff and Judge Greer for interfering with the lawful duties of the Department of Children and Families but he did not use it.

FLORIDA CONSTITUTION

ARTICLE VIII - County Government
Section 1
(d) COUNTY OFFICERS. There shall be elected by the electors of each county, for terms of four years, a sheriff, a tax collector, a property appraiser, a supervisor of elections, and a clerk of the circuit court;

ARTICLE IV - Executive
SECTION 7. Suspensions; filling office during suspensions.--
(a) By executive order stating the grounds and filed with the custodian of state records, the governor may suspend from office any state officer not subject to impeachment, any officer of the militia not in the active service of the United States, or any county officer, for malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, drunkenness, incompetence, permanent inability to perform official duties, or commission of a felony, and may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension. The suspended officer may at any time before removal be reinstated by the governor.

ARTICLE III - Legislative
SECTION 17. Impeachment.--
(a) The governor, lieutenant governor, members of the cabinet, justices of the supreme court, judges of district courts of appeal, judges of circuit courts, and judges of county courts shall be liable to impeachment for misdemeanor in office.

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Three threads (mine) that should come to everyone's attention are these:

Why Judicial Appointments Do NOT Matter (Schiavo)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1371395/posts

OPEN LETTER TO HUGH HEWITT RE: TERRI SCHIAVO and the JUDICIAL OLIGARCHY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368633/posts

SCHIAVO v. SCHIAVO - "Conservative" Judge Birch Proclaims JUDICIAL OLIGARCHY (full opinion)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374897/posts

A point which I drew from this last one is in my comment after the judge's opinion:

Judge Birch fails to appreciate when he states, "An act of Congress violates separation of powers if it requires federal courts to exercise their Article III power “in a manner repugnant to the text, structure, and traditions of Article III."[" - ] that that necessarily implies that Congress and the President are likewise not bound by decisions of the courts that conflict or usurp their Article I and II powers or are repugnant to the plain language of other parts of the Constitution they are sworn to uphold and enforce. It is more evidence that judicial appointments of the "right temperament" will not curb the excesses of the courts as the position of all-powerful judge seems to corrupt absolutely in the absence of will and true independent action of the other supposedly separate and equal branches.


130 posted on 04/02/2005 8:24:01 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: windchime

Thank you! BTW I am reading a biography of Margaret Sanger right now looking for other background information that might provide clues; I will let you know if I find anything significant.


131 posted on 04/02/2005 9:39:29 AM PST by Fedora
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Wise words from Jim Robinson: "The fundamental problem with the case mounted by the Schindler family is that they depicted Schiavo's plight as a religious issue."

"In fact, it is a human rights issue. Schiavo is not in pain and is not dying. She is not on life support. Her care is not expensive. Why does her disability deserve a death sentence? "

- Jim Robinson

The parents may have seen this as a religious issue, but when you deal with the courts, you need to find another angle. This reality makes legal battles very difficult for truly devout people.

It's best to find an attorney who respects your position but will work hard to present another argument to the court.

Sad, but true. Religious arguments fall on deaf ears.

132 posted on 04/02/2005 1:44:36 PM PST by reformjoy (Hillary -- Botoxed all to Hell)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Actaully this is what Jim Robinson said!

The article was written by someone else.

To: Trinity_Tx

It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.

46 posted on 03/31/2005 12:54:00 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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133 posted on 04/02/2005 1:51:17 PM PST by reformjoy (Hillary -- Botoxed all to Hell)
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To: freespirited

The right to life side lost because the game was rigged.


134 posted on 04/02/2005 1:54:01 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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Sorry about that, I thought this article was written by Jim, because of a link I misread.

Just a mistake on my part.

It is a good article though. When we let the law
and courts decide issues, we have to realize that there
is a way to deal with the courts that may lead to victory.

It is a mistake to think the courts will understand
and sympathize with our moral and ethical positions.

135 posted on 04/02/2005 1:57:12 PM PST by reformjoy (Hillary -- Botoxed all to Hell)
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To: Trinity_Tx

It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.

46 posted on 03/31/2005 3:54:00 AM EST by Jim Robinson

Short and sweet. Thanks Jim!

136 posted on 04/03/2005 6:25:13 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: Future Useless Eater; floriduh voter; phenn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; ...

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


137 posted on 04/03/2005 4:42:48 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Washington_minuteman

This is so wonderful. You have said so much in one post, that really needed to be said. I know this post is after the fact - but you are so right about all.

It is time to rebuild that America - that's where I grew up - and it is time to bring her back.

Thank you for your words. JK


138 posted on 04/03/2005 5:02:34 PM PDT by Just Kimberly (Always proud, Always American, Always Trust in God...HOOAH!!( and Terri - we will never forget.))
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To: freespirited
Well said. I have always wondered why the Schindler lawyers were unable to do anything when they had a wealth of evidence at their disposal.
139 posted on 04/03/2005 5:24:08 PM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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