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And decrease the surplus population [Schiavo now, who's next?]
Bucks County Courier Times ^ | March 24, 2005 | J. D. Mullane

Posted on 03/30/2005 9:07:57 PM PST by syriacus

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To: nopardons
Are you now saying that Teri DID choose to starve to death? You keep posting that.

I see you didn't bother to quote me at the beginning of your post, as most repliers do. You've left it up to me to show people what I really wrote. So I will make my words clear...

My exact words were

Scrooge sounds just like Greer and Michael. "Terri chose to starve herself to death. " "Our hands are clean "

Note the quotes that indicate I am attributing the sentiments to Greer and Michael

If you cannot cite, your side's not right.

181 posted on 03/31/2005 4:24:44 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: nopardons; Light Speed
Teri and Shiavo

If you two want to be taken seriously when you discuss Terri, you could at least make an effort to spell her name correctly.

182 posted on 03/31/2005 4:29:21 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: syriacus

Actually, I've found a lot of Dickensian moments in this. Remember the endless lawsuit in Bleak House conducted by the law firm of Jarndyce & Jarndyce, which basically did nothing but eat up the fortune (this was also a probate matter!). There was a feeling in many 19th century novels, in fact, that falling into the hands of the law and the judiciary was practically a fate worse than death, if only because it went on a lot longer than merely dying.

Dickens may have been a "flaming liberal" of his time, but I fail to see how that negates his value. Victorian capitalism was quite savage and very close to economic libertarianism; Dickens was not a Socialist, but someone who felt that society should be a little kinder to the weak. But contemporary liberals feel that society should not be "burdened" by the weak (elderly, handicapped, unborn, etc.) and in many ways share a lot of opinions with libertarians and Ayn Rand types.


183 posted on 03/31/2005 4:35:31 AM PST by livius
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To: Lion in Winter

This is inevitable since taking the free market out of the equation guarantees that the costs will always rise exponentially. The politicans have three choices: (1) end health care, wherein the opposition party simply starts it up again when they're elected in overwhelming numbers by angry wel-faeries making 1994 look tame, (2) raise taxes that actually decreases revenue by crippling the economy, (3) kill off the hopeless cases and incremently lower the bar for "hopeless". There is only one logical choice from the politicans' view.


184 posted on 03/31/2005 4:41:17 AM PST by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: syriacus

Excellent article.


185 posted on 03/31/2005 4:56:39 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: livius
Remember the endless lawsuit in Bleak House conducted by the law firm of Jarndyce & Jarndyce, which basically did nothing but eat up the fortune (this was also a probate matter!)

You've pointed out some very specific parallels and your whole post was very informative.

Thank you.

186 posted on 03/31/2005 4:58:00 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: hellinahandcart

Thanks, hellinahandcart. :-)


187 posted on 03/31/2005 5:01:46 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: syriacus
This is Judge MANDELE Greer's proposal to address the financial problem of Social Security- STOP FEEDING ALL THOSE COLLECTING SOCIAL SECURITY WHO CANNOT FEED THEMSELVES!

This is the government of incrementalism. Remember the smoking ban initiative - we only want four non-smoking seats on an airplane flight.
188 posted on 03/31/2005 5:13:03 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9
This is the government of incrementalism

Yes.

Even liberals talk about slippery slopes, when it suits their purposes.

189 posted on 03/31/2005 5:31:51 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: Light Speed


Good post
and GOOD to "see" you.


190 posted on 03/31/2005 11:24:02 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: syriacus

Lets move on people.


191 posted on 03/31/2005 11:25:32 AM PST by biblewonk (I wouldn't want to live like that.)
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To: biblewonk
Lets move on people.

Only two posts since in the last 6 hours, yours included. I think everyone has moved on.

Anyone notice how Felos keeps flicking his tongue in his open mouth, right before he lies?

192 posted on 03/31/2005 11:39:21 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: bigjoesaddle
You posted a picture from Logan's Run. Did you hear Felos's description of how 30 hospice workers stood around Terri's body while it was on a gurney?

It reminded me immediately of the picture you posted.

193 posted on 03/31/2005 11:58:38 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: Light Speed
BRAVO!
194 posted on 03/31/2005 3:07:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: syriacus

Your "colorized version" of this debate is yet another fiction.


195 posted on 03/31/2005 3:09:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: syriacus

Don't cherry pick my posts. That's one heck of a nasty habit you have there...cherry picking anyone and everyone's written word and trying to make it all fit your agenda.


196 posted on 03/31/2005 3:10:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: syriacus

You cherry pick; ergo you've lost before you've begin.


197 posted on 03/31/2005 3:12:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: syriacus
What...you've never made a typo in your entire posting history?

When someone uses that as refutation,they've already lost the debate.

198 posted on 03/31/2005 3:13:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: syriacus; All
In Honor of Terri Schiavo.

Please let load -- it's 11 mb.

Have headphones or sound on.

199 posted on 04/02/2005 12:32:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (God rest Terri Schiavo. God save the rest of us.)
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To: syriacus
Years ago, my friends adopted a severely retarded one-month-old baby. Twenty-something years later, he is a ward of the state and is tube-fed. He has never talked, he's blind, and has some walking/crawling mobility.

Unlike Terri, his adopted parents are now too old to take care of him and don't have the resources to do so even if they were able. Unlike Terri, there were no good family memories of better days playing with siblings when he was younger. He has never spoken the English language, never learned to read, never contributed anything directly to the economy. Unlike Terri and some other PVS victims, there is nothing for him to awaken from and come back to.

Is he next for feed-tube removal?

200 posted on 04/02/2005 12:39:59 PM PST by MHT
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